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5 Reasons to Love the 11th Doctor



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Doctor Who returns at the end of the month, meaning Matt Smith is going to get all adorable up on our TV screens every Saturday night for the rest of the spring. Life is good for a Whovian. But for long-time David Tennant fans, their love of the 11th has been slow and at times, tempestuous. Sure, he’s not as controlled or as clever, but he’s sweet and thoughtful and more honest about his affection.

To celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the show and the impending return at the end of the month, I’ve compiled five reasons lovers of the 10th should forget that drip and make room for the 11th in their hearts.

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  • Adam R. Charpentier

    We’re totally on opposite poles about Amy & Rory. I thought Rory always seemed threatened but never had the gumption to say anything about it and right on through their last episodes, he’d still have to occasionally pry Amy off of the Doctor’s arm. They tried so hard to make him seem like a worthwhile choice but, really, how could anyone choose an average human being over the Doctor?

  • Anonymous

    I can’t get behind the concept of him being a ‘better lover’ as he only, so far, has shown a considerable amount of contempt and disinterest in River Song. I also have major issues with Amy and Rory’s relationship. IDK. None of these are outright reasons to love 11. Not to say I hate him, I just wish I knew more about HIM as a doctor, not him as a marriage counselor, or a character constantly forced into sexual situations even though it’s clear he’s not a sexual character.

  • Anonymous

    The things you mention about Eleven’s sonic screwdriver becoming more of a weapon is exactly the reason why I really dislike a lot of the directions we’re going in with this show with Eleven.

    The sonic screwdriver should not be a weapon. The Doctor should never be wielding a weapon as a first option, and here we have this item being a solution to most things he gets in. I find Eleven far more brash and way less willing to use his intellect and wit to get out of situations, like Nine and Ten did. Instead, he has a tendency to use powers of intimidation and threats as very early options, and that is a dangerous path to go down.

    In the western episode earlier in the season, I was really angry that they had the Doctor wielding that gun so easily. And at first, I was like, you know what? Fine. Let’s do that. And then let’s have *consequences* for that–if this Doctor, who previously almost always refused to even hold a gun unless *absolutely* necessary, is going to so easily pick up a weapon, then we need to see what the hell that actually does to the Doctor, and have real, dangerous consequences that happen because of that, and explore those dark effects. Instead, the story just picked up where we left off and didn’t think twice about it.

    I miss the Doctor who was much more interested in saving worlds by use of cleverness and kindness than by his intimidating reputation.

  • Robert Vary

    I’m pretty sure that it was Rose and Mickey that made Rose and Mickey look dysfunctional.

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    Nine is my Doctor, but ultimately they are all the Doctor and I love the Doctor. Even if I think Moffat’s story arcs are a bit… wibbly wobbly.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you!! It’s so weird they had him doing that, especially when during 10′s last episode, they made SUCH A HUGE DEAL about how The Doctor really really really hates guns and finds holding them insanely uncomfortable. Ugh!

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    Rose and Mickey are not comparable to Amy and Rory. They had a completely different kind of relationship from the beginning. Both couples knew each other from very young ages, and both boys were head over heels for their girls, but I don’t think Rose ever loved Mickey like Amy loved Rory. I really think she dated him as long as there was no one better, but she’d never have married him. Mickey was very much the tin dog, and only later grew up to be the man Rory was.

  • Anonymous

    To be honest, I’m still not convinced that Amy loves Rory, at least not in the same way that he loves her. There’s a faint sense of guilt that I get from her. The only time I felt for a blip of a moment that she loved him was the Amy’s Choice episode, but aside from that… I don’t get it. I get that her whole thing is that she’s emotionally stunted but divorcing someone rather than having an actual conversation with them about how you can’t conceive kind of makes me raise an eyebrow.

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    agreed! There was clearly so much history/backstory/chemistry between Ten and River in Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, and Moffat has really fallen down when it comes to building that history. It’s like the Doctor knows they have this ‘past’ together, so he just pretends like it’s all happened and he doesn’t have to get to know her or fall in love with her like he apparently ultimately did/will do. There was so much good potential in that story; I think it’s been wasted.

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    yeah, there is that…

  • Anonymous

    That’s probably my biggest point of disappointment in the new series (aside from the weird borderline Incestuous backstory that is now River’s history). Their whole marriage ceremony left me absolutely flabbergasted. The Doctor seemed almost -disgusted- to do the entire thing. Like it was a grave burden that he had to bare to make sure nothing got destroyed. It makes me confused as to how we’ll get to the point where we will actually see a loving relationship between them (if ever) or if River’s sacrifice that day in the library turned out to be the actions of a horribly obsessed and needy character who did it out of desperation in order to see him love, as opposed to something that was done out of sincere love and self-sacrifice. Ugh.

  • Anonymous

    Yes! The inconsistency of that was disappointing.

  • Jessica Stank

    In some ways I feel very fortunate to have begun watching The Doctor with the eleventh. I don’t have any contempt toward him. I find him charming and utterly wonderful. I loved the list.

  • http://twitter.com/KagegaChan KageChan

    hmmmm … NA tenth is still and always will be my doctor <3

  • Anonymous

    I began watching with the tenth, and I loved him. Stayed for the 11th and I love him too, along with all of the companions (not the biggest Rose fan, but whatevs) I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this series since I discovered it, and I accept it for what it is – pure fantasy and escapism. Maybe that’s why I can look past some of the inconsistencies regarding character details, plot holes and such. Me, I just sit and enjoy instead of getting twisted in all that nitpickery like the comments above…It’s fluff! Sit and enjoy :-)

  • OdinsEye

    Yes, seriously awesome fluff. I first started with the 8th ,but they have all been clever and a bit plot holey. I can’t wait to see what is next.

    …and Rose was terrible….

  • Robert Vary

    Exactly. The didn’t need Amy and Rory to make their relationship look bad. It was bad in and of itself.

  • Kifre

    Can I just cosign this whole thing and add: in addition to contempt and disinterest, Angels Take Manhattan 11 forces his wife to break her own wrist and River makes it very clear that everyone must try their best to appear ageless not displease the Dr? I mean, something about that is just *off*. None of it says ‘good lover’.

  • http://melancholywise.tumblr.com/ Sophie

    I was re-watching the series recently, and it’s a rather interesting character flaw of Rose’s actually, she’s got this quite unpleasant possessive streak when it comes to guys,
    She has little relationships with several guys during the first series. She never properly breaks up with Mickey after running off with the Doctor. She also brings Adam aboard, after having something of a flirtation, and then very quickly loses interest. She brings Jack aboard in a similar fashion, and she gets very jealous when the Doctor flirts with other women, or when poor Mickey attempts to get over her and move on.
    I find her relationship with Mickey quite depressing, really.

  • menotu2

    I don’t think you know very much about Dr. Who….

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    I started with Nine, and I’ve seen at least a little of every Doctor except 6 and 8. Each one of them, and every companion, has something special about them. It’s the SHOW that’s great, not one particular actor or supporting character.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I haven’t gotten to Eleven yet, and I’ve been rather concerned about what I’ll think of him; both Nine and Ten won me over before I even saw an episode, due simply to things I stumbled across online – images, quotes, and so forth. That hasn’t happened with Eleven. I was hoping this list would help, but I’m still not convinced. I just hope when I reach those episodes I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that was Pre-War Doctor. Notice how there are no clips from post-war Doctor.

  • Anonymous

    I still haven’t watched that episode, to be honest. Everything I hear about it makes me SCREEAAMM internally. UUGHhhhhh. The only thing really good about it, to be honest, is that it was The Ponds’ last episode. Eurhg.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, as much as I hated how Rose treated all the guys, I -liked- that we saw her do that because it made her seem way more believable. She was easily excitable and tempted by -new things-, but was absolutely terrible at actually letting these shiny new things know that she was bored of them. That’s part of what made The Doctor exponentially more appealing to her – he never stopped being Shiny and New. There was always something new about him, something for her to discover, and rediscover, and discover once again. The episodes when Mickey was on board were pretty great (to me at least) because it actively SHOWED how unhealthy their relationship was, as opposed to trying to mask it as something incredibly romantic and worth while like they did with Amy and Rory’s relationship.

  • http://twitter.com/NoniDoll Noni Doll

    That seems to be the looming theme of the 50th anniversary special though – he has become this intimidating figure, and now he’s realised that, Moffat is slowly erasing him from the universe’s memory.

  • Anonymous

    Yes! Thank you! That is EXACTLY what I don’t like about Eleven! (Well, that and Ten already stole my heart) That was such an interesting idea with a lot of potential, and the little subtle things like that just got thrown away in favor of theatricality. It’s so much more predictable now, you got it exactly right, he’s less clever and wily. Instead he’s a lot more of a petulant misanthrope that seems to have lost sight of his goals. He forgets about actually SAVING people half the time, and just lets the redshirts die rather than go out of his way, that was a big reason that I loved Ten so much.

  • Anonymous

    Yes! I hated the wedding scene too, it was painful to watch.

  • Anonymous

    Once he fired a De-Mat Gun at Sontarrans soldiers that literally erased them from existence, he gave up all moral highground against conventional firearms.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=178002540 Danielle Stanard

    This just sounds like rationalizing to me. I have nothing against Matt Smith, I think he’d do a fine job given decent material, but the overwhelming popularity of Doctor Who these days annoys and bemuses me because it came at the EXACT moment that the show bought into traditional compulsory masculinity and the patriarchy. I have made many long drawn out statements saying as much, so I will just say, read some of the criticism of Moffat’s show from a feminist perspective before you start defending the 11th doctor.

    I don’t understand what anyone could ever have against Rose, she was and remains a pure and true example of what it looks like when a female lead holds equal weight on Doctor Who, and with the exception of Donna, you may never see the like again. I am bothered by the “I don’t like the way she treats men” argument because I think it is based on some very subtle internalized sexism. We are automatically predisposed to judge female characters more harshly when they’re not requiting the advances of male characters, especially beloved male characters. I don’t think anyone within the digesis of the story doesn’t know that Mickey is dumped by the end of the first season. Rose, however, has a right to her jealousy when he starts dating someone else, because well, that’s how exes very often work. What happens to Rose and Mickey is so true to the way relationships sometimes fizzle out, with one person completely out before the other person even notices, that to criticize the behavior of either just seems like a limited understanding for how complicated dating can be.

  • http://www.delishiono.com/ Michelle Mista

    Rory has gone to hell and back for her, in multiple realities, and given her his everything. Amy knows that Rory has always wanted children and that she can’t, under any circumstances give that to him.She wants to make him happy and if having a child is what will make him happy, then letting him go to find that opportunity is the best thing for him — even if it means hurting him in the process to do it.

    If you’re not broken, it doesn’t make sense. But Amy’s B R O K E N emotionally, in a lot of ways. And being infertile can be a HUGE strain on even the strongest relationship, particularly if you know it’s your body that is incapable of doing its part to produce a child.

  • http://www.delishiono.com/ Michelle Mista

    The 11th Doctor is my Doctor and darned proud of it! I started watching at Rose and it was a snore fest. I gave it an honest 6 episodes and no matter what, I couldn’t understand why the hell anyone liked Doctor Who!! My friend had me start at Series 5 and from the moment he popped out of the TARDIS, 11 totally won me over. Maybe it’s because I have a kid but so much of 11 reminds me of dealing with a precocious kid — that’s why I love him. That childlike — and childish — side of the Doctor are fun. He’s mischievous cheeky and can be a downright spoiled brat at times. Not as clever as 10? I say that he is but damned better at hiding it.

    I’ve never been able to understand the utter hatred people have towards 11 and the Moffat era, which I found vastly superior to RTD’s in storytelling, which I found to be fun but cheesy rides. I think a lot of people overthink Moffat’s plots in an attempt to try to be clever, fall flat on their face, and then blame Moffat for what they couldn’t understand in the first place. His storytelling is quite simple, really.

  • http://twitter.com/meliciousness Melynda

    I love 11, personally… I think he’s adorable. I love 10 and 9 too (sorry, I’ve only seen the ‘new’ Doctors) but this list wouldn’t win over any of those Whovians still stuck in the past on Tennant’s Doctor. Matt Smith’s Doctor isn’t as witty or whatever, but this Doctor is the darkest of the three, I think. Some people aren’t going to like it. There really isn’t much you can do about those people. The Doctor’s incarnations are the same person, but they’re not the same personality and it seems like a lot of people still want to compare Smith’s Doctor to Tennant’s and Eccleston’s and I think it just takes away from whatever 11 brings to the table. If you think that’s anything at all.

  • http://twitter.com/meliciousness Melynda

    Rory did mention quite a few times about Amy’s relationship with the Doctor and how he felt that she loved him over Rory but she constantly reassured him of it and I honestly think it got to the point where Rory loved the Doctor as much as Amy did. I mean, Rory knew Amy for as long as she was obsessing over her ‘imaginary’ friend so it was pretty much like he knew him too. I really didn’t get that there was animosity and while I feel that Rory definitely WAS threatened by the Doctor at first, I think it eventually faded away into something else.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    *shrug* Maybe. That makes sense, too, though I’m glad to see the experiment ended. I’m looking forward to the new dynamic, whatever it may be.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    I’d argue that it’s better that she break her own wrist than sever the Angel’s hand, but the Angels are storybook monsters and should probably all be slaughtered, anyway.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Silje-Bergerud/1497452457 Silje Bergerud

    First I have to say that I don’t like the 11th Doctor at all. He’s far too much all over the place for my taste. I do like several of the stories that happen to feature 11 and Amy, and sometimes Rory (who I do like), but it’s not like with 9 and 10 where I can pretty much put on a random episode and have a great time. I even tried to like 11 for a long time, but in the end I just gave up, he really isn’t my cup of tea. With that in mind, I’ll give my thoughts on this list.

    1) Really, one of the most memorable qualities of a character is a piece of garment? Okay, there’s been other doctors that have had a memorable garment or piece of wardrobe, like the scarf or the stick of celery, but I haven’t seen them. 9′s black leather jacket and 10′s suit and coat are also memorable and iconic, but it’s not all they’re about. I don’t even think they’re mentioned, ever, whereas we’re beaten over the head with “Bowties are cool” at every opportunity. It becomes too much.

    2) Amy and Rory… Well, I do like Rory a lot, and Amy was nice in the beginning, but the scene that really shows my problem with the trio is when Amy is talking to baby Melody, telling her what an amazing and incredible man he is, and how he’s saved the world. Even the second time watching that episode and that scene I fell into the trap of thinking she was talking about the Doctor at first, and the constant “Does she love Rory, does she love the Doctor?” thing gets tiring. Sure, it’s shown time and time again she really does love Rory, but never without a period of doubt first. I mean, even the fact that the first person she tells she’s pregnant to is the Doctor becomes a problem! If she had told River or any other female character it wouldn’t matter, but it’s so clear the writers want us to doubt her choices and even start shipping Doctor/Amy. So no, the Doctor is not the third way in any way. Maybe he sees himself as that or want to be it in the belief Amy will be happier with Rory, but it’s not how things really are.

    3) All the “new” Doctor’s have had a bitching screwdriver, bringing up 11′s in particular is grasping at straws.

    4) I’ll give you that based mostly on that I like River Song, at least in the earlier stories she featured.

    5) … The Tardis has also always been cool. Why are two of five points on this list something that’s pretty much universal to all the incarnations of the Doctor? Also, I’m not too fond of the newest interior, it seems too cold for me.

    All in all I see 11 as a less complex and reliable character than 9 and 10. He can suddenly go into a rage and yell, but instead of it seeming justified and showing how much he cares, how truly angry and passionate he is, like with the two others, it just comes off as a tantrum because things aren’t going his way. I don’t know, maybe it scares me in a way because I don’t like people yelling at all, and certainly not unexpectedly and seemingly without reason. With 9 and 10 I shared their rage, felt that if I couldn’t do anything about the situation, or at least voice my disatisfaction with it, they did it exellently because they were just as angry as me, and in the same way. 11 just doesn’t do that for me…

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry. Was this Post-War Doctor because I do not remember him doing that in the episodes in which they appeared in the new series. The whole point is that The War changed The Doctor’s attitude towards many things and yeah, war makes people get a little icky towards things that can instantly kill people. The Doctor’s lost his shit many many times since then but the whole point of his character now is that he’s not about killing. He’s about giving people opportunities to turn around and prove themselves.

  • Anonymous

    First of all, as someone who’s battled their own personal demons, I’m the last person that needs to be lectured on what a broken character is. My issue, however, isn’t that she’s “broken” (because there’s absolutely nothing about here so far that’s given us any real reason to think that she IS), it’s that her actions inherently come off as immature. The way in which things are played out are so “omg well, you know, idk, i just thought this was good????” which doesn’t, by any means, translate to a character who’s given any real thought behind it, let alone any kind of level of complex thinking and reasoning behind their actions either. I can get it if she pushed him away, kept pushing him away in the marriage, was coming off as incredibly cold and distant. Maybe after their filing for divorce, we actually SAW her anguish in this decision. But no. We got her getting herself gussied up and looking pretty for the camera as her method of dealing with things. This doesn’t register as broken. it registers as immature and self-absorbed, something that’s rather consistent with her portrayal. Broken gives the implication that she has been through significant traumatic experiences, that she’s been emotionally or mentally scarred by various actions but you know what? She’s treated Rory like this from the get go. Our initial introduction to their relationship is that she. left. him. to run off with The Doctor. Something that Rose did, yes, but we outright SAW the problem in this. There’s way too much of an effort of trying to write off Amy’s actions as being sooooo romannnttiicc and full of love when the executions are just terrible and sometimes disgusting.

  • Sabrina

    I don’t have an issue with Eleven, I don’t even have a bone in the whole pointless Ten-vs-Eleven fight (Nine is the best anyway!) but this is a rather poor list to make a case for him.

    1) “Bow ties are cool!” Ugh yeah, we get it. Leather jackets are cooler, so what now? Wardrobe choices are a very weak and shallow reason to like a character.

    2) Amy and Rory were a nice couple but what has this to do with Rose and Mickey? Rose’s and Mickey’s relationship was falling apart from the very first episode. They were never meant to be seen as fully functional relationship.

    3) The sonic as a weapon? Oh please no! And this is not even about Ten being all preachy so Eleven should have the same attitude or stuff like that. It’s okay if Eleven is less opposed to guns – after all if pushed too far Nine would readily grab a gun as well (though never fire it). But at the chore the sonic should never be wielded as a weapon cause that’s the freaking point of it. It’s not a sonic blaster or sonic cannon or sonic disruptor – it’s a SCREWDRIVER! It doesn’t harm, doesn’t maim, doesn’t kill – but it’s very good at opening doors!

    4) Ten was a crappy lover, I give you that. Poor chap woke up with a girlfriend but couldn’t get it right. I’m not entirely happy with Eleven and River either though. The whole “conditioned to kill the Doctor” backstory is really icky and makes her love come off as a result of her trauma rather than free will and actually falling in love with him on equal terms. All in all we got the closest thing to a proper love story with Nine/Rose. There, I said it!

    5) The new TARDIS is nice and all but also not really a reason to love Eleven as a character. But compliments to the design department, I guess?

    Actual reasons to like Eleven:

    1) He’s a family man. Sort of. After trying to resist “domestics” as Nine and slowly warming up it as Ten the Doctor has finally reached a state in which he’s kinda comfortable with having a sort of family for himself after the trauma of loosing everything and everyone in the Time War – which leads to…

    2) He has sort of gotten over his trauma or has at least learned to live with it. He’s able to go off and have adventures on his own. When Ten tried that he snapped and became Time Lord Victorious and we all know how that ended. Eleven doesn’t need a babysitter anymore – although he still needs someone to bring him back to earth (figuratively and literally) every once in a while.

    3) He has a promising mystery plot build around him. It’s still hard to tell how it’ll turn out but the whole arc about the Silence, the Question and the Fields of Trenzalore is magnificently woven into his stories and could provide a great pay-off. Let’s just hope Moffat delivers a bang!

    4) Matt Smith does a great job! That is not to say that he is the best actor ever to play the role but he really owns his Doctor. He brings a great mix of alien and human qualities to the role. He is quirky and funny, sweet and compassionate but has also some great dark moments. He has a few issues with portraying anger (which sometimes come off as childish temper tantrums) but it still fits Eleven. I couldn’t imagine anyone else playing him.

    So uhm yeah, that’s the best I can come up with for now.

  • http://www.delishiono.com/ Michelle Mista

    I don’t know you, your history and I’m not lecturing you on what a broken character is; I’m just stating that Amy is broken. And people get broken and show their pain in different ways. if her actions come off as immature… well, yeah. When someone is hurting, are all of their actions rational and mature? Likely not.

  • Anonymous

    Re: Moffat’s plots: that hasn’t been my experience at all. My main problem with Moffat’s plots is that they’re generally too damn predictable. He goes for the most obvious answer every damn time. Think River Song’s the Doctor’s wife? Wait YEARS only to discover…she’s his wife. Think River Song killed the Doctor? Wait a season to discover…River Song killed the Doctor. I’m just saying, he always goes for the most obvious and boring answers. RTD would at least surprise me with plot twists like the Face of Boe. Or the Master.

    That being said, he’ll try to make them seem complicated, which just leaves him with a million gaping plot holes. Or resolutions that don’t entirely make sense. Just watch the Wedding of River Song for proof of that one.

    And c’mon–Moffat has cheesy episodes too. Remember when Craig defeated the Cybermen with daddy-love? When the only thing that could make it rain was a family’s tears?

  • Anonymous

    And I’m stating that she’s not broken, nor has she provided us with any character development to make us think she is broken. She’s emotionally stunted and immature, yes, but that girl is not broken. Learning to put on her big girl panties would cause a huge difference in her. Basically, I guess what I’m saying is… I know broken, I’ve known broken people. I’ve seen broken. That girl, however, is quite far from it.

  • Anonymous

    That’s a really good list, I didn’t quite consider the blend of
    alien/human that this one has, but that definitely is something in his
    favor, it does make the oddness a little less contrived. Ten is still my favorite, but these are pretty compelling points
    :)

  • Sabrina

    Thank you! :D
    Nine and Ten were certainly very human doctors so Eleven being a bit more alien makes for an interesting contrast.

  • Anonymous

    Remember when the 9th refused Cassandra’s cries for mercy as she ruptured? Or when he told told Cathica to overheat Satellite 5′s control room to kill the Jagafress? Like the 10th Doctor saying “no second chances” & killing the Sycorax leader with a Satsuma? Or when he tried to kill all the Racnoss by drowning their queen? Or the time that he turned into a human just to prolong him torturing the Family of Blood in ghoulish ways after they killed some humans he put in their path by hiding?

    The Doctor has been murdering & torturing his enemies pretty regularly throughout his incarnations, pre & post Time War, with a variety of weapons.

  • http://twitter.com/Tonks07 Mandy

    I had caught a couple episodes of 10 on TV and got curious about the show. And after talking and looking around the internet I decided it was time to jump in and actual watch some stuff in order. I just jumped on the beginning of 11 since it was the most recent and fell in love. I love the boyish charm Matt Smith brings to this character that is such an old old man with so much pain and backstory. I loved seeing his relationship with Amy evolve. I liked seeing a couple with the Doctor, I think it’s an interesting dynamic rather than just Doctor+girl. I can admit that Moffat does write some reeeeally problematic things but for me, I was just so charmed by the characters and the choices the actors made that I got sucked in and hooked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    You weren’t convinced when she killed herself twice for him in the same episode.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    Ditto. Rose and Mickey were one accidental pregnancy away from becoming a Teen Mom couple, and once she met the Doctor she forged a deeper relationship with him very quickly. Series 5 begins and ends with Amy and Rory’s wedding. You really can’t compare the two.

    The Doctor was more like the Harry Potter to Amy & Rory’s Ron and Hermonie. There is only the specter of a triangle, and it would be kind of gross if the Doctor made out with his mother-in-law again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    I don’t think Rory ever had a reason to feel romantically threated by the Doctor. Not only was Amy’s only real pass at the Doctor the result of cold feet/having recently survived a live and death encounter. But the Doctor made it clear to both of them in no uncertain terms that wasn’t into her, going so far as to repair their relationship several times.

    Amy chooses Rory over the Doctor basically every time that becomes an issue. She may not idolize him the way she does the Doctor, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s more like a really awesome older brother to her … that is married to her daughter.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    Series 1-4 and 5-7 don’t even feel like the same show to me. It’s like two different production teams were given the same assignment and both got way different results. I don’t want to knock the first four seasons, but there was some silly stufff that broke my relatively flexiable suspension of disbelief, and those alien invasion episodes exhausted me.

    The 11th Doctor era just has better characters, production values, restraint (well enough) and a clever story arc that still feels like it’s going somewhere.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Except for the extra long kisses, the times that Rory has to literally pry Amy off the Doctor, and the fact that the Doctor has a time/space machine and has saved Amy and the universe countless times, I would almost agree with you.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve tried to like Eleven, I really have. To be entirely honest, I don’t have a problem with Eleven himself or Matt Smith; my problem is with Moffat and the Ponds. It just doesn’t work as well as the RTD era, especially now that it’s basically transferred Michael Bay effects to Who, as if that would make the show much better.

  • http://melancholywise.tumblr.com/ Sophie

    Oh absolutely. I LOVED Rose when I first watched the series, and it’s been great to go back and both re-experience those feelings, but also to look at the show and the characters now that I’m a little older, since I think some of her nuances were originally overshadowed by my teenage adoration. I find his relationship with Rose sad because I like Mickey, but I still appreciate it as a good piece of writing.

    RTD always had a knack for characterisation, and it’s something I really miss with the current series. The characters just seem to lack that depth. Moffat, I think works with a lot of stereotypes, and that’s sort of okay for just an episode, but over a series the cracks in the characters really start to show. I understand that Rory and Amy love eachother…but I’ve never quite gotten the why of that. I mean she runs off with another guy on their wedding night. They seem to want completely different things from life…except that we don’t really know what Amy wants. It doesn’t seem to be Rory. All her character beats past her fist series have felt kind of random. They have some sweet scenes together, I think the actors have chemistry, but I really don’t get it. The same goes for the Doctor and River.

    All that said, this is supposed to be an 11th Doctor positive post, so while I’m not a big fan of Moffat’s characterisation, I think of a visual level the current series is miles ahead. The plotting is incredibly creative, and he’s got a knack for suspense,
    There are things I like a lot about both RTD and Moffat and things I don’t like so much, and I kind of wish they’d partner up, because I think a lot of their writing flaws and strengths compliment each other.

  • Anonymous

    Oh for sure. Moffat has it’s pluses, but over all I’m feeling nothing but disappointment. He definitely doesn’t have the same kind of touch for characters and character development as RTD, and I don’t over all feel like the length of Who episodes are appropriate for Moffat writing, which seems much better fitted for the 1 1/2 hour slot he gets for Sherlock where there’s more time to really provide information that’s crucial to make the stories give a stronger sense of connection.

  • Anonymous

    I referred to the Amy’s Choice episode already. Aside from that, there was no point in time throghout the series in which I felt like she felt anything sincerely deep for him. She seemed kind of like the annoying popular female character that you come across sometimes in shows, where the humble nerd is in love with her and she kind of goes along with it not because she actually loves him but because she feeds off of the love he has for her. IDK. Nothing about them made me swoon, go “aw” or feel anything happy. There was far too much exasperation going on between the two of them to get a coherent sense of a healthy love between the both of them.

  • Anonymous

    *The Doctor’s lost his shit many many times since then but the whole point of his character now is that he’s not about killing. *

    I’m sorry, what? This is in part of why we had the companions around, they helped ground him because it was pretty clear that the Doctor wasn’t crazy about that absolutely murderous side of him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    She tried to kill herself when she thought Rory was dead in a the dream world. When she was trapped in the space apple store she named her robot “Rory” not “The Doctor.” She spent several episodes with the Doctor after her memories of Rory were erased and nothing happened between them. And most importantly, she goes to certain death TWICE in Angel’s Take Manhattan for Rory. Seriously, just because Amy and the Doctor were close doesn’t mean they were on the verge of banging each other. Rose and Martha wanted to bang the Doctor(I get the sense that Clara with ironically make passes at him until she meets River). But he and Amy were just friends.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    I never suggested that the Doctor was interested. He seems positively asexual when it comes to Amy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    A lot of people are that way with their mother in law

  • http://www.mommymisadventures.com/ Michelle Mista

    I agree! I thought RTD’s stories were way too crazy (invasion? again? seriously?) for my tastes though he seemed to handle the short episodic stories much better. The overarching story arc that both series 5 and 6 had was HUGE to me.

    Part of the reason I think people get itchy with Moffatt’s writing is that it’s not *done* yet. Season 5 had loose ends that we answered in Season 6 and there’s still plenty of reason to believe that Season 7 will answer what was left hanging in Season 6. I’m hoping that once Moffatt’s story line is Done ™, we’ll see a great payoff.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JamesMauriceAlexander James Alexander

    There was a massive large scale invasion of earth about three times a year during the RTD years. That’s such a waste when the premise of the TARDIS means you and literally tell a Doctor Who story about anything you want. But for me at least, I find Doctor Who more interesting when it focuses on time travel and not space travel. That’s why episodes like Blink and Silence in the Library where so cooler than watching the Doctor going to wacky planets.

    The Moffat era takes advantage of the time travel element of the show to do more than just set episodes in spaceships and castles. In the very first episode the Doctor completely changes the course of a little girl’s life because he’s time machine is broken. The 11th Doctor’s companions are far more vulnerable to the existential threats of time travel than blasters. Amy hardy missed a day of her kidnapped daughter’s life. But it’s all out of sync, and thus just the same as never seeing her again.