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Halo 4 Execs Bring Out The Banhammer, Threaten Lifetime Suspensions For Sexism on Xbox Live


Start a discussion about harassment in games, and two words are bound to come up: Xbox and Halo. Seeing as how the latter is one of the most successful game franchises ever, which runs on one of the world’s most popular consoles, this perhaps has to do less with the game itself and more with the fact that it represents a huge chunk of the gaming community. Heated competition undoubtedly plays a part as well, but whatever the reason for it, if you want to show someone just how bad things can get in multiplayer gaming, Halo’s the poster child.

Which is why it was a pretty big deal earlier this week when Gamespot published an interview with Kiki Wolfkill, executive producer of Halo 4, and Bonnie Ross, head of Microsoft subsidiary 343 Industries (the game’s developer). With Halo 4 poised for launch next Tuesday, they had a message for their players: Sexist language on Xbox Live will get you a permaban.

Ross and Wolfkill said there is zero tolerance for Xbox Live players who are found to be making sexist or discriminatory comments against others, with a lifetime ban from the network as penalty.

“I’ve seen many of the sites that have documented some of the more gender-specific slanderous comments,” Ross said.

“This is behaviour that is offensive and completely unacceptable. I’d like to think most of our Xbox Live players don’t support this kind of behaviour.”

“It can be dangerous to give adolescents a broadcast mechanism,” Wolfkill added. “There are always going to be jerks out there, and if you give them a way to express that side of their personality without being seen, you’re going to see this type of behaviour manifest itself.”

Ross and Wolfkill said that developers have a responsibility to stamp out this behaviour by putting more thought into how their games will be perceived…Part of this responsibility includes changing perspectives about the games industry as an exclusively male-dominated area.

It’s hard to understate how noteworthy this is. Xbox Live is a cornerstone of the gaming community, and Halo 4 is…Halo 4. Games don’t get much bigger than that. To have two head honchos — both women, no less — lay down the law a week before launch is a powerful statement. Microsoft is a juggernaut, one of the industry’s “Big Three” (Sony and Nintendo complete the trifecta). Their actions and policies have influence well beyond the boundaries of the Xbox platform. To see this kind of move in conjunction with Halo means that even the top dogs are taking harassment seriously, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see others follow their lead.

During my formative years, I was all too aware of how hostile multiplayer games could be toward female players. For a long while, I saw that as an unchangeable reality. Developers didn’t seem to notice the issue and the gaming community at large didn’t talk about it. It wasn’t until college that I worked up the courage to play with others and tell them who I was, and even then, the climate wasn’t overly welcoming. To see one of the heavyweights stand up and say this is not okay is, for me, not only an encouraging mark of how things have changed, but also a sign of good things to come.

Ross and Wolfkill’s statement has, inevitably, kicked up several points of debate. Some have grabbed pitchforks and are shouting “free speech!” — which rather misses the point. Xbox Live is a privately-owned service, not a government entity. In principle, a public multiplayer game is no different than any service-based business out in the real world. I used to tend bar, a job which has more than a few traits in common with a game moderator. My bar was not a democracy, and my job was not to ensure the happiness of every individual I poured drinks for. I was there to provide a enjoyable environment for a large group of people. If someone was harassing other customers or doing anything to make the atmosphere less pleasant for everyone else, out they went. No questions, and I would’ve laughed if they asked for their money back. What Xbox Live is doing is no different. Their job is to entertain as many people as possible, and thankfully, verbal abuse is not something the majority of gamers enjoy listening to. Folks have every right to disagree with user policies, but in the end, it’s Xbox Live’s house, and they can make whatever rules they like (and yes, I’d feel the same even if they had a “no girls allowed” policy — but you can bet I’d say something about it).

As for the interview itself, some seem to be operating within the understanding that sexism is the only type of bad behavior that will be treated this strictly. To my understanding, while the interview is focused on sexism, the policy they describe is wider reaching. I assume that “discriminatory comments” covers racism, homophobia, and other identity-based insults (and if it doesn’t, it absolutely should). I didn’t get the sense that sexism was brought up because Xbox Live sees it as the only behavioral problem, or that it’s more important than other forms of discrimination. It’s just a specific topic these two women wanted to focus on (similar to when some Xbox Live team members made a video in support of GaymerCon). As you may guess, given the purview of The Mary Sue, that’s an impulse I understand. Even so, I think it’d be great to see a comparable statement making it clear that Xbox Live does not tolerate anything that falls under the discriminatory comment umbrella.

The more tricky point some have been discussing is whether or not permanent suspension is too harsh a punishment. My immediate response would be to point to the archives of Fat, Ugly or Slutty — particularly the threats of rape and murder — and say that a permaban is right on the money. But I thought of something I read last week when doing research for my article on League of Legends’ new Honor system. In an article from Polygon, Riot Games’ Jeffrey Lin shared a story of a temporarily banned player who came back a little wiser.

Riot Games says that its Tribunal system, which fields reports of negative player behavior, and metes out warnings and bans, is just as important in combating negativity. It’s important that players get feedback on how they behave online, which is reflected in Reform Cards that document chatlogs and team scores from player reports.

“When Reform Cards went live,” Lin says “I actually got an email from a 10-year-old boy who said ‘Dr. Lyte, this is the first time somebody has told me that I can’t say that word online. I’m really sorry and I’ll never do it again.’ I showed that to the team and I said ‘Can you guys see the difference you’re making in peoples’ lives? This is not about games anymore, you guys are impacting these players .”

After thinking of this, I’m curious to see how the policy Ross and Wolfkill mentioned will actually manifest (the only form of discrimination Xbox Live’s Code of Conduct currently lists as grounds for permanent suspension is “severe racial remarks”). “Zero tolerance” sounds an awful lot like “instant permaban,” which, while sometimes appropriate (again, rape and murder), may not necessarily be the best long-term solution in all cases. There will always be jerks in the mix, and no policies, no matter how strict, will get them to change their ways. Those people should be shown the door, no question. My thinking is focused on people like the young LoL player described above. There are many players who take part in discriminatory behavior not out of malice, but out of trying to fit in — and no, they’re not all kids, either. Plenty of adults follow the crowd, too. That doesn’t excuse their behavior, not by a long shot, but an instant permaban doesn’t give them an opportunity to change. I’m reminded of the interview I conducted back in July with Sam Killermann, the guy behind the Gamers Against Bigotry project. He, too, described experiences with players who simply needed a wake-up call.

About a dozen of the pledgees have contacted me saying things like “I never realized doing this actually hurt people,” or “I just thought it was part of the culture, so I played along” and ended their messages with “but I’m going to try to stop now.”

I’m envisioning two scenarios involving an Xbox player such as this. In the first, said player has his (or her — ladies can be jerks, too) account locked out without warning. He’s understandably pissed about it, and since he hasn’t learned anything from the experience, he’ll probably continue that behavior on whatever platform he migrates to. On the other hand, if the player is given a one-time warning that clearly states what he did wrong and why it’s not cool, he might have a change of heart — or at the very least, mind his manners in the future. Personally, I think the possibility of welcoming folks like that back into the fold is worth creating a buffer zone.

So while I’m hugely in favor of Xbox Live coming down hard on sexism (and ideally other forms of discrimination as well), I’m hoping that this policy is implemented in such a way that fosters a better community, rather than just kicking bad behavior out the door and letting it take root elsewhere. But regardless of the particulars, I applaud the Halo 4 team for the message at the heart of it all: Women make these games, women play these games, and this is our community, too.

More importantly, though — Kiki Wolfkill? Everyone go home. We’ve found the greatest name in the world.

Becky Chambers is a freelance writer and a full-time geek. She blogs over at Other Scribbles and can always be found on Twitter.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/alasdairmurray Alasdair Murray

    “Kiki Wolfkill? Everyone go home. We’ve found the greatest name in the world.”

    I was going to say that! I know it’s not the point of the article (which is otherwise good), but I’ll be damned if that isn’t the most badass name I’ve ever heard.

  • Anonymous

    I think permaban might be a bit excessive. A ban of 2-3 years is enormous for games and could prevent somebody from ever playing a certain game online.
    As for the rape and murder threats, this goes past Microsoft jurisdiction. At this point, just send the file to the police and let the legal system take care of it.

  • http://twitter.com/RJonesEsquire Russell Jones

    Can’t happen soon enough. This is largely the reason I stopped playing Halo mutliplayer in the first place. To think of banhammers coming down left and right… it’s a wonderful feeling. We’ll see how the implementation goes.

  • Anonymous

    I might be wrong, but I think it just perma-bans their account–not their access to the game. They can easily create another account, pay for online access, and start playing again. It will disrupt their gaming accomplishments, status, etc, but they could still play.

  • http://zadl.org/ Captain ZADL

    If we did it your way, nothing at all would happen. The legal system is notoriously bad about taking threats of violence against women and minorities seriously.

  • http://zadl.org/ Captain ZADL

    It was the comments I heard while playing a friend’s X-Box that has prevented me from ever getting one.

  • Anonymous

    Bad legal system or not, banning somebody from playing online is a ridiculously weak sentence for a death threat. If it’s illegal outside of the gaming world, there’s no reason why Microsoft should be acting differently than any other enterprise would do.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right but there’s no refund for the account they just lost, so there’s a monetary incentive not to repeat the behaviour. And if Microsoft is serious, there’s probably a way to make sure to no other account is ever paid with the same credit card, making it even harder to create a new one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501983222 Matt Graham

    I’m all for it, I refuse to use voice chat on Live thanks to some prior experiences. It’s not what I want to hear when I’m relaxing. That said, I also doubt this being pulled off. I’d love for them to do it, but it doesn’t seem like they crack down on offensive people much, and it’s not like these rules haven’t been in place all along.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501983222 Matt Graham

    I can’t believe Kiki is just now being heard of here. She’s so rad in all the Halo PR materials. I attribute Halo’s success to her: she clearly cares about Halo.

    Bungie may have made the series, but they seemed to be getting tired of it as the games went on. 343 is made by people who want to make Halo. Bungie is free to do what they want, 343 is doing what they want; everyone wins.

    Kiki Wolfkill and her team’s enthusiasm has just been awesome to hear all year. I love when people love their product.

  • Anonymous

    I have a 10-year old daughter and an 8 year old son and I would love to introduce both of them to online gaming as they get a little bit older, but I have been hesitant due to the crap I see and hear about. If the Big Three step up and set down some ground rules I will guarantee I’ll pick up more of their games!
    Like you, I feel the system should involve first clear warnings, then bans for a set period of time and then a permaban.

    The comparison to a bar is brilliant – really drives home the point to “free speech”-morons.

  • Anonymous

    Sexist, racist, and other kinds of offensive comments should never be tolerated in any way on xbox live chat. I just hope that we don’t go too far and start banning competitive talk that is NOT discriminatory. I try to limit my cursing on Xbox but every time it slips, I don’t want to end up having my account suspended.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashe.samuels Ashe P. Samuels

    Although I’m not too sympathetic to arrogant assholes spouting slurs and threats left and right, I think a warning BEFORE a permaban could be a slightly better system. As noted above, a lot are just woefully ignorant, because of youth, or lack of being called out. It’s not excusable, BUT it’s more likely to be fixed. Not to mention, others may be more open to change when they see their peers do.

    Those that know what they’re saying is horrible? They won’t change, and are probably going to accrue the most permabans. To that I say, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    Imagine: all the slanderous idiots that this environment has welcomed in are going to start being unwelcome pretty soon. Who will replace them? Probably all the people who wanted to play Xbox Live, but were tired of the shitty people. I definitely wouldn’t worry about player numbers here.

    Overall, this is great. I had to blink a few times before the headline to this sank in: women are helming Halo 4 AND they’re going to lay the smackdown on hatespeech?

    Can we say ABOUT DAMN TIME?

  • Life Lessons

    Wow. Now I really do have to go buy an XBox to show my appreciation!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004577887621 Kim Dolla
  • http://www.surlymuse.com Daniel Swensen

    “A ban of 2-3 years is enormous for games and could prevent somebody from ever playing a certain game online.”

    Good. Maybe they can get it together to not act like a jackhole when the next game comes along.

  • http://www.facebook.com/s0nicfreak Amanda Lee Matthews

    Trash talking is part of the fun – the fun for EVERYONE. I am a woman and I am seriously considering canceling my preorder because of this bullshit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/s0nicfreak Amanda Lee Matthews

    Just canceled my preorder for – I will not support this feminist bullshit. If you want to be part of the community then JOIN IN to what it already instead of trying to change it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Tegernako Tim Durocher

    Haha yeah I saw this a while ago elsewhere. I’m really sick of all the anonymous hate on the internet. I’m not so much into gender equality as I am in to human equality. In my world any discrimination is a notch against us as a whole.

    To take a stand like this is really quite impressive and I have to say 343 and Microsoft (They wouldn’t be able to do it without Microsoft) are going to hopefully do more then just say what they want to happen.

    I’m sick of all the hate mail I get from butt hurt douches on Battlefield 3. I’m an extremely good player. But the crap I get sent my way is just utterly ridiculous.

    Half the **** people say online wouldn’t DARE be uttered if I were right next to them person in an arcade room.

    Still regardless of what happens at least someone is bringing up the issue.

    On a slightly ironic note, that has nothing to do with this, but I was reminded of, my sister got banned from xbox live for 9998 years because her name was avajajay. Not only that but that was the seventh time she’d be asked to change her name and she always did some form of avajajay lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/Tegernako Tim Durocher

    Find a clan or a community. I joined one that was casual in nature. I’m extremely confident that their is a clan/community somewhere where you can join that has like minded people. If you have kids and you find good people you can introduce them to online while in a party with people who won’t act immaturely.

    Regardless their are options (for the Xbox at least) to prevent people from sending your messages and you can also make it so that you can only hear the mikes of people who are your friends.

  • Temecula

    I fully support this implementation! I hope it is applied equally to ALL sexes, orientations, and races! One of the biggest turnoffs for me in any online shooter game is the harassment I receive from people for sounding white.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephendanger Stephen Danger Prescott

    So let’s do both. Permaban, AND report to authorities.

  • http://twitter.com/seriouslyyouguy you guys

    To suggest trying to file charges with the police against anyone who says such a thing is logistically and legally impossible. What jurisdiction does your local police department have over someone in, say, Russia? Hint: None.

    The legal system will not take care of it any more than it will take care of your garden, that’s not what the police are for. They’re for dealing with actual, real crimes (i.e. actual, real murders and rapes,) not stupid teenagers on the internet talking shit because they’ve got a veil of anonymity.

  • http://twitter.com/seriouslyyouguy you guys

    How did the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 get passed by congress and signed by a male president, then?

  • http://twitter.com/seriouslyyouguy you guys

    …The harassment you receive for sounding white? Most of the people this is meant to curb are 4chan and Stormfront types who think that white men are the most oppressed minority in the history of the world.

  • Cave Johnson

    These are already the rules. Stop stirring shit just to seem like you’re getting something done.

  • Cave Johnson

    Sure, don’t wait until they’re mature to let them play mature games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/emily.walton.7503 Emily Walton

    Fun fact: you can trash talk people without assaulting their minority status. Also, there’s a difference between good-natured trash talk and harassment. There are nearly 200,000 words in the English language, and if the loss of a handful of them negates your ability to have fun on the Internet, you might want to expand your vocabulary a bit.

  • Mike

    This article is a joke, yeah sexism a problem for the minority of female gamers out there… are you kidding? As an African American not to sit here and say one discrimination is worse than the next I’ve been lobby to lobby around racist nonsense. You can mute players, and you can report them. I pick one of the two options above or I say my piece in response, I’m not going to cry and whine about the “trauma” from idiots being idiots online, they are everywhere. Man the hell up… im sorry feminist article…. Female the hell up. They might be annoying scum but even I don’t think it warrants them losing their xbox live privileges. P.S. You can always turn your mic off.

  • Canisa

    Permaban seems about right to me. I don’t care in the slightest about people learning from their errors or changing their ways; I just don’t want to have to deal with their bullshit.

  • Canisa

    Idiots being idiots online are everywhere, yes. That’s how things are at the moment, but if we ban them for their crap, they won’t be anywhere, at which point those of us who actually deserve to play with others can get on with enjoying ourselves. I would say that their being annoying scum warrants them losing a hell of a lot more than just their Xbox Live privileges as well. Also don’t act like turning your mic off is even close to being an actual solution to this problem.

    P.S. The noun you’re looking for is ‘woman’, not ‘female’.

  • Anonymous

    Death threat is a serious crime in any country and it’s exactly what the police are for. If a russian makes a death threat, let the russian authorities take care of it according to their laws.

  • Anonymous

    If it were fun for everyone, there wouldn’t be an issue. Truth is, many trash talkers don’t care if the other people have fun or not; they just care about their own enjoyment. This is the complete opposite of what multiplayer should be.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe it wasn’t clear but, yeah, that’s what I meant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashe.samuels Ashe P. Samuels

    I have a feeling you’d claim anyone who doesn’t agree with your version of fun as an ‘oversensitive pussy’.

    You’ll fit right in with all the other guys canceling their pre-orders.

  • Anonymous

    Oh Canisa, that was marvelous. Thanks for your comment!

  • Temecula

    So are you in favor of ignoring racism against white people and sexism against males? That doesn’t make sense! Sexism and racism are ALWAYS horrible things, no matter who the victim is. You sound like the kind of person who thinks it’s a scantily clad woman’s fault if she gets raped. You’re disgusting.

  • Mike

    xbox live player options : mute this player.

    xbox live matchmaking options: avoid this player
    Look at you, you survived.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ashe.samuels Ashe P. Samuels

    Hey, check out this haiku I wrote:

    Those poor white people

    And those poor oppressed men too

    Moment of silence

  • totz the plaid

    Kiki Wolfkill and ILM’s Greg Killmaster should form a geek bond due to them having the most badass female and male names respectively.

    Also, your argument about zero-tolerance permabans being overkill and suggesting a one-warning policy is missing one key detail:

    This announcement in advance of the game’s release? That IS the warning.

  • http://twitter.com/BrianBuckler Brian Buckler

    Even more depressing was reading the Gamespot users comments, and I proudly have an account there (BRiDeath, catwoman’s my pro pic) but that was just dissappointing.

  • http://twitter.com/IksarCleric Jhary Kenshura

    There’s this thing called game cards……

  • http://twitter.com/IksarCleric Jhary Kenshura

    Not only are these the rules, these are the rules they never enforce. Hey Microsoft, at some point are you going to ban the folks with the KKK and Nazi symbols in Call of Duty like you’re supposed too? K thx la~

  • http://twitter.com/IksarCleric Jhary Kenshura

    I’ll believe it when I see it. They notoriously do nothing about cheats, obscene emblems and banners, or people breaking the current harassment codes. Between all the 16 year olds playing music over their mic, the stoners talking about weed and the 12 year olds who won’t……stop……talking……ever, with their Mickey/Minnie Mouse voices, God knows that I have reason enough to turn off the headset that doesn’t involve a single sexist or racist remark.

  • Anonymous

    If they’re going to do that, it better be in effect for BOTH genders, and cover RACE as well as GENDER… Not to mention DEVELOPMENTAL difficulties…

  • Anonymous

    Yes. Because that’s what I was saying in my comment. It’s not like I mentioned that I was thinking ahead to when they are teens. And while some games have contetn that is definitely not suited for adolescents, this kind of bad online behaviour tends to spill over into most forms of MPG. So I still think it is a good idea to esablish good basic groundrules online.

    And if people want to talk trash they can band togehter and talk that way solely to each other and spare the rest of us.

  • Anonymous

    Will do all that, but the more monitoring I have to do on behalf of my kids, the less inclined I am to shell out money for a game. I’ll buy games without the mulitplayer option instead so that I don’t have to look over their shoulder 99% of the time.
    I like to have some time to myself – to play games or whatnot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552705641 Kaysa Lacy

    So, who wants to make me a sandwich?

  • Canisa

    Xbox Live moderator options: Ban this player forever.

    Oh look, now the problem has actually been solved.

  • http://twitter.com/JayKingOfGay Jay, King of Gay

    EXACTLY.
    From my point of view, it’s the idiots who need to man/woman up and stop acting like jerks. Yeah jerks are everywhere, but that begs the question “Should they be everywhere?” No. They shouldn’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/s0nicfreak Amanda Lee Matthews

    If you don’t find it fun, you can go play a game where it isn’t rampant, instead of ruining the fun for the majority of players in this game that DO find it fun.

  • http://www.facebook.com/s0nicfreak Amanda Lee Matthews

    The problem is, if a male gives ANY trash talking to women like this (anti-sexist-talk, feminists) they will say you are doing it because they are a woman. Since I sound like a 12 year old boy despite being a 27 year old woman, this means any trash talking I do, or even so much as “HAHA I killed you” they will see as sexist talk.

  • Anonymous

    And how am I supposed to tell which game has trash talk and which game don’t before I buy the game and play it?
    Also, your “majority” claim would need to be backed up with numbers because I never played a game with more than a few assholes in them. They bother a lot because of who they are, not because they’re that many.

  • http://www.facebook.com/carlosmartinezstudios Carlos A. Martinez

    Im right with you man, I just started playing the SPARTAN OPS online only games and even on teams there were N-Bombs and Gay Slurs. Instantly muted all comm’s. Glad to see this actually.

  • http://www.facebook.com/carlosmartinezstudios Carlos A. Martinez

    ANNNNNNNND….someone get amanda some burn heal.

  • http://www.heroinejewelry.com/ Rose – HeroineJewelry

    That’s great. I love the idea of educating as a first step – when I first stepped into (sigh) AOL chats, I figured that the “thing” was to be as macho & brash as possible, so that’s what I developed. And it’s easy to hide your true identity online. It was either be that or be a crying emo girl (no judgement on anyone, that’s just the 2 big “roles” I found way back in the day). Stepping into mmos, I did find some nice people but then there were the big bad meanies. I can imagine little kids coming on and realizing that’s who they have to be. I can’t imagine what Xbox live is like. So I’m thrilled that in some arenas like LoL, mods will step in & say hey, that’s not appropriate.

    On the other hand, once you’ve been “educated” about what’s ok and what’s not, banhammer away. It’s great that they can do that on their platforms. On WOW people automatically assume I’m a guy despite the girl toons I play. It’s nice sometimes, no extra attention, but other times I’m totally shocked at what they say slur-wise (and I’m talking all kinds of slurs, not just gal-related). I really think it goes back to the macho bravado stuff. I’ve called some of them out before and 9 times out of 10 they back down, they just say, Oh, my guildies talk like that a lot so it rubs off, or Sorry, I was just talking big and didn’t realize it was offensive. It’s the trolls and jerks that need to be banhammered.

  • Anonymous

    This is ridiculous. I read a comment down below in which a user commented how freedom of speech is moronic in this case. If you look around you, our civil liberties are being eroded. It’s no shock to me that these people in charge are implementing this policy. You have a mute option on XBL and its a simple as pressing two buttons. I am not supporting immaturity on XBL but that’s the person’s choice to be immature. It’s another player’s choice to mute him/her. Going as far to regulate people’s speech on a video game network is indeed an attack upon the very basis of freedom of speech. I don’t care if it’s a private company. This country is owned by a private company, it’s called the Federal Reserve. Once again, I do not support discriminatory comments online. I mute people often. HENCE THE MUTE FEATURE. Stop crying about having your feelings hurt because you got flamed on a video game. It’s just some poor kid in another state who has insecurities so he gets online and flames people. Have you people ever heard, “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.”? I’ve had it these censorship movements, I’m a mature adult who is capable of muting a kid on XBL and my life goes on.

  • Anonymous

    This is ridiculous. I read a comment down below in which a user commented how freedom of speech is moronic in this case. If you look around you, our civil liberties are being eroded. It’s no shock to me that these people in charge are implementing this policy. You have a mute option on XBL and its a simple as pressing two buttons. I am not supporting immaturity on XBL but that’s the person’s choice to be immature. It’s another player’s choice to mute him/her. Going as far to regulate people’s speech on a video game network is indeed an attack upon the very basis of freedom of speech. I don’t care if it’s a private company. This country is owned by a private company, it’s called the Federal Reserve. Once again, I do not support discriminatory comments online. I mute people often. HENCE THE MUTE FEATURE. Stop crying about having your feelings hurt because you got flamed on a video game. It’s just some poor kid in another state who has insecurities so he gets online and flames people. Have you people ever heard, “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.”? I’ve had it these censorship movements, I’m a mature adult who is capable of muting a kid on XBL and my life goes on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/YoungThanos Ebbin Jones

    its halo 4! its a little late dont cha think.. and as far as kids playing online last time i checked it was and M rated game so parents allowing the to play it you agree to subject them to that kind of language. if had a dollar for every time ive been called the “N” word on XBL i could buy 343!

    p.s. i do agree with a more specific way to report a problem with someone..

  • Anonymous

    Really we are getting permabanned for saying something innapropriate in a game rated m for mature, thats one of the stupidest things ive ever heard especially since theres an option to mute players which is pretty simple to use. Are people to laxy to click an extra button. And im not saying that saying sexist or other hurtful comments is ok by any means but when i hear it i just mute those players and let them argue among themselves i really dont see a point in hitting them with the BANHAMMER let everyone have fun however they want and if tou dont like it leave them alone

  • http://citizensteven.blogspot.com steve

    You may have laughed after kicking one out of your bar, but if you were sued for it you would have lost. The same for MS. This is a mature audience rated game and people here in America can say and do whatever they like. If someone tries to put a ban on one for free speech I would say let’s sue the shit out of them. Sure, it’s nothing more than a drop in the bucket for MS, but I would argue that I purchased the console only to play halo 4 and demand my money back for the console as well as every game purchased for it. At the very least they will be forced to drag themselves into small claims court to deal with it. So if enough people sue we can make a difference. Stand up for your rights people. I understand that those whom are physically weaker than men get all upset about it and want the world to revolve around them but the truth of the matter is that without men there would be no way for a woman to protect herself. If the civilization went down the tubes, where it’s headed, women will go back to doing as they’re told.