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Captain America Magazine Cover Features Black Widow In That Butt Pose We’ve Come To Know & Hate


Empire Magazine has just released their February movie covers, and the good news is, one of them is Captain America: The Winter Solider-themed! The bad news is, poor Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow is once again forced that classic, female superhero position: the butt pose. Iconic, but in the worst way.

The cover also features Chris Evans as Captain America, rocking the new uniform; and Sebastian Stan as the guyliner-heavy Bucky Barnes (aka The Winter Soldier himself). Here’s the full cover for your viewing pleasure/exasperation:

Sigh. We’re really never going to escape the butt pose for female superheroes, are we? At least we got it from Legolas instead of Tauriel in the Desolation of Smaug poster.

Just because it never gets old, let’s just revisit artist Kevin Bolk’s take on that Avengers poster:

Thank you, duck-face Hulk, for marginally dissipating my Hulk-like butt-pose rage.

(via Empire Online)

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  • Anonymous

    There is also the very intentional placement of Capt’s shield. Just look at him trying to focus.

  • Thomas Hayes

    They couldn’t have just got Black Widow to mirror Winter Soldier’s pose… oh no, that’d be too simple and effective, wouldn’t it.

  • Anonymous

    No Falcon?

  • Anonymous

    I know, right!

  • Anonymous

    The butt pose isn’t as bad as it was in the Avengers poster

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but the “butt pose” rage is becoming the “get offa my lawn” of The Mary Sue. Especially here, where you can’t even really see her butt (unless, I guess, you’re REALLY trying) because Cap’s arm is in the way (due to his homo-erotic shield pose). It’s like you’re trying to create a controversy out of nothing. Why not complain that Bucky is covered up by Captain America more than Black Widow is, thus signifying he is somehow less important than the female character? Yeah, it’s THAT ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    Something might be said about how the heroes are doing the standard thing of standing there with their muscles flexed. I’ll grant you that they’re wearing uniforms over them, but it’s still the standard muscled-man flexing his big manly muscles pose.

  • Michael Suchan

    The moment I saw it this morning I said The Mary Sue is gonna have a field day with this. xD

  • [rab]

    I think it’s fairly hilarious that this keeps getting mentioned when the ever-changing logo has the exact same pose on every page…

  • Anonymous

    Let’s get these characters out of tights and into suits and fatigues ASAP, because under no circumstance is the human form supposed to make you go hommina hommina hommina.

  • [rab]

    I mean seriously, look at the top left corner of the page…

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Yeah, that’s hilarious. Almost like there’s a reason for it…

  • http://readingwatchinglookingandstuff.blogspot.com/ Janna

    The Kevin Bolk cartoon was the first thing I thought of. Quick, DC, now’s your chance!

  • http://readingwatchinglookingandstuff.blogspot.com/ Janna

    It would be confusing! “I think that’s Scarlet Johansson, but I can’t see both her boobs AND her butt, so I’m not sure.”

  • Anonymous

    This is nowhere close to the Avengers poster. Her costume is loose and functional, her make up is barely existent, her butt isn’t the forefront of her character presentation and we are still talking about how she’s a sex object. Whoopee. Go team.

  • Sara Green Williams

    I was going to point that out, too. Good one.

  • [rab]

    Maybe I’m failing to see the ironical nature of the logo.

  • Anonymous

    don’t sweat it, [rab]…when there’s something to be outraged about, jill will let us know.

  • Anonymous

    Just a heads up

    “and Sebastian Stan as the guyliner-heavy SPOILERS (aka The Winter Soldier himself). ”

    The Winter Soldier secret identity is a HEAVY spoiler for movie only audience

  • Carmen Sandiego

    Not only can you see her butt, you can see both cheeks! It’s just lazy and uninspired and pretty frakking tired.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    So glad you felt the need to make this personal. This is your one and only warning, personal attacks are not tolerated on this website, you will be banned if you do it again.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    They are putting him on the cover of a magazine. I don’t believe the studio intends to keep it a secret. We usually go by that standard when posting items on the site.

  • Carmen Sandiego

    Is it really? I knew this story years ago.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to see some poll numbers on who’s tired of Scarlett Johanssen’s derriere. It’s still pretty inspiring to a lot of folks.

  • Anonymous

    They put the Winter Soldier on the magazine.
    No mention yet in any trailer of his identity… and they went some trouble to make the actor look diferent/wear a mask…

  • Anonymous

    fair enough, your site, your rules, and you can change them as often as you wish, to validate whatever point you need to make. the doctor is a sexual predator, the mary sue promotes gender equality and no one would ever say otherwise.

    http://s748.photobucket.com/user/MatisyahuSerious/media/hypocrisy_zpsae50d721.gif.html

    http://www.themarysue.com/tom-hiddleston-zachary-levi-dancing/#comment-1111183093

    still respect your viewpoint, and your intellect and your writing, but loathe the lack of depth your inability to suffer any other viewpoint would seem to imply.

  • Anonymous

    Then everyone could complain about how they posed her to show off her boobs!

  • Anonymous

    You must be looking at a very special version of the photo, “Carmen”, because on the one I see on this page, most of her left cheek and half of her right are covered. But let’s focus on that anyway, because most everything else about this photo is SO original!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, MatisyahuSerious, stop using people’s names! What is the matter with you!?

  • Anonymous

    But he is in NO WAY playing Kahn! No, really!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think it’s supposed to be a secret…he’s on the cover, the movie is called the Winter Soldier, doesn’t really seem like a big mystery
    For comic book fans it’s obvious, for non-fans..it doesn’t really mean anything

  • Karina Burana

    I’m sorry, I don’t get it. I clicked the links and yeahbuwha?
    First one is random screenshots of other sites who happen to share the same platform but are, as far as I know not really affiliated. Second is to a fluff-piece article with a sprinkle of good-natured fangirling and ribbing by commenters.
    Is this some kind of riddle? If it is I’ll need more clues, because it’s not really making sense right now.
    Also, chill. I don’t think that “no personal attacks” is that outlandish a rule to have, and not some conspiracy to, I dunno, ‘bring you down’ or whatever is going through your head.

  • Karina Burana

    Not … really? What has a logo-based-sight-gag to do with the very annoying habit of the entertainment industry to pose women in a very specific pose meant to titilate?

  • Karina Burana

    Maybe you can make that argument when Hollywood starts to explicitly pose male actors not to display strength or heroism, but instead to provide “hommina hommina hommina” for women. And not just actresses for male viewers.
    Also, the article didn’t even mention clothing, so, nice Strawman. Maybe it can go off to find the Wizard of Oz.

  • Anonymous

    Not a Twilight fan, huh?

  • Karina Burana

    Nope. Just of superhero comics.

    I know that pose. It’s damn ubiquitous and just as annoying.

  • Anonymous

    On the one hand, there’s something to be said for the visual balance of vertical symmetry. On the other, the symmetry itself would be stronger if Black Widow’s pose actually mirrored the guy whose identity may or may not be a spoiler—or if his mirrored hers. I’m not getting anything about their interpersonal relationships from this visual layout, which really looks like a cut-and-paste job from various character photographs.

    I don’t have a problem with TMS pointing out butt poses when they appear in media. As long as it reflects the double standards to which we hold women in entertainment, this kind of thing deserves my attention.

  • Carmen Sandiego

    It’s the pose that’s tired.

  • Ryan Colson

    I was expecting butt…not Cap’s elbow pretty much blocking it.
    Really?
    This is much better than I was expecting…:/

  • Ryan Colson

    I mean the indignation<the apparent rage of it compared to the Widow in Avengers poster.. not the butt curve…

  • http://www.fangirlwithtea.com/ Pamela

    I’m glad that you joined this conversation for the sole purpose of telling everyone that you can’t actually see her butt. I’m sure everyone appreciates it.

  • Anonymous

    Man, if she just turned a LITTLE more clockwise, it’d be fine. If her legs actually lined up squarely with the camera, I could get it. I mean, that’s the shooting pose you use for old timey duels, but hey, it looks cool. But no. *sigh*

    What I like to try and do is imagine why on earth someone would be standing this way. My best guess she she was going to aim at something off to the right of the frame, standing in profile to reduce her target area, before she got distracted at the last second by the miniature “Kick Me” sign that Tony Stark applied to the back of Cap’s helmet.

    Seriously. Natasha. What is so interesting about the back of Cap’s head? … Also I just noticed she has a second gun, so that means the reduced profile idea doesn’t hold much water either.

    Final note, is it just me, or did the amount of hate in the comments on this site go up dramatically as of very recently?

  • KryptoBunny

    Quite right, the men are almost always in positions that say “I’m powerful!”. I think the idea is just that it would be preferable to see Black Widow looking equally powerful. The “we can see her butt and boobs!” pose is something that exists for the “male gaze” — which isn’t to say that it’s what dudes want to see, just that it’s what dumb studio execs think dudes want to see — and of course, they don’t think girls are watching these movies at all (stupid!). Sometimes these decisions are character appropriate — in this case, I’d say the male poses are fairly appropriate, but the female pose isn’t really, since sexual availability isn’t really a big part of Black Widow’s character. This particular picture is pretty restrained comparatively, though.

  • Travis

    Last I checked, getting women to say “hommina hommina hommina” has been the primary motivation for nearly every display of strength and heroism in males since before the discovery of fire.

  • Anonymous

    You should be outraged! Because you know…patriarchy.

  • Anonymous

    Good point.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a cool art style though.

  • Anonymous

    “I’d say the male poses are fairly appropriate.”
    You think that because you’re a woman. As a man I can tell you that it’s the same sort of objectification as what the Black Widow is doing. It’s not the “Muscle Beach” flexing pose, it’s the “Bad Boy” flexing pose. They’re supposed to be all dark and edgy and shit (despite the fact he’s clean cut Capt. America), but they’re still posed.

  • Anonymous

    Wait so dudes flexing is inappropriate because it makes them look like muscular badasses? And that is the same as Black Widow in a pose that shows off her secondary sex characteristics (boobs and butt)? I mean it’s not like Cap’n is thrusting his groin at the camera.

    But then I don’t even know what you mean by “muscle beach” vs “bad boy” flexing pose. I think the only difference is lighting – as in, darker lighting = grittier pose/character. And if anyone in the Marvel movie!verse has reason to be gritty, it’s Captain America – everyone he knew and loved is dead. That’s harsh, bro.

  • Anonymous

    “But then I don’t even know what you mean by “muscle beach” vs “bad boy” flexing pose.” Then why do you feel qualified to comment?

  • Laura Truxillo

    Maybe that’s why Cap’s in the classic “Hiding a Boner” pose…

  • Anonymous

    As a connoisseuse of the male form I feel I am qualified to say those poses are ones of power and “what up, I will fuck up your shit, don’t mess with me” as opposed to the boobs/butt pose of Black Widow that says “oh hey I was facing this way but you’re over there? Let me only turn my upper body so that you can see my butt and also my boobs and I am not in a position of strength at all”

    But yeah I don’t know the distinction between “muscle beach” and “bad boy” because you are the first person I’ve seen to make that distinction, so please, elaborate.

  • Anonymous

    SMASHING PASSE. HULK TWERK NOW!

  • Nicoclaws

    How is Cap’s pose homo-erotic ?

  • Gary Keyes

    I’d wish they stop it too. I mean it’s silly. Yes, ScarJo has a great derriere–we get it! Who does these pictures? A 12 year old photographer who has never seen a woman’s posterior? C’mon, grow up, already!

  • Gary Keyes

    Yeah, where’s the brother?

  • Hugo M

    We’ll always have Paris err, Kevin Bolk. Somehow I had come to think things were changing and Johansson would refuse to do the pose…

  • http://whiterosebrian.tumblr.com/ White Rose Brian

    *snickers like a Minion* Bottom. *laughs*

  • Penny Marie Sautereau

    Ehn, at least it’s not as exaggerated as the one from the Avengers poster.

  • Charlie

    It’s a weird pose if anything. Why can’t she just stand facing the camera?

  • Anonymous

    Sebastion looks….daaaaamn.

  • Anonymous

    “Maybe you can make that argument when Hollywood starts to explicitly pose male actors not to display strength or heroism…”

    Let’s be honest here, who wasn’t going “hommina hommina hommina” at the Cap and Winter Soldier. They fill those suits out like nothing.

  • Anonymous

    It’s people like you who are trying to bring things down. For shame sir. FOR SHAME!

  • Anonymous

    “…what up, I will fuck up your shit, don’t mess with me…”

    Which can be sexually attractive. Very much so.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know; how is Black Widow’s pose a butt shot? I can see a whole lot more of the rest of her.

  • Anonymous

    Well, sometimes people do like being told when they’re arguing over a problem that doesn’t exist. You’re welcome.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Butt shot ≠ butt pose.

  • http://www.fangirlwithtea.com/ Pamela

    Not sure if you don’t understand sarcasm or if you’re just that arrogant.

  • Anonymous

    I am sure I am preaching to the choir when I say: dudes in powerful poses, in a Patriarchal society, is NOT the same thing as objectifying poses of women. Yes, this standard of “always looking powerful and muscular” is a restraint on men (and those who identify as such). But that is a different topic, and here, it is a deflection. You are not adding anything new to the discussion.

  • Anonymous

    My tongue fell out watching her jiggle as she flew around in that cocktail dress in her establishing scene in The Avengers. And if that’s wrong I don’t want to be right.

  • Anonymous

    Short answer: nope, not the same thing.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, you don’t get to decide someone else’s experience. I don’t feel it’s as objectifying either, but that’s not the point. She IS in a sexy pose, and that is problematic.

  • https://plus.google.com/108831586029632971053 Franck P. Rabeson

    The short and clear explanation:

    The superhero pose means ”Hey guys, you wanna look LIKE me, right?”

    The superheroine pose means “Hey guys, you wanna look AT me, right?”

    The superhero pose is for men to envy as an ideal image of themselves.

    The superheroine pose is for men to lust for as an object to leer at.

  • Anonymous

    Not really. Poses in men are meant to be sexy as a second thought, but command power and respect first. Again, difference between objectificational poses for women and stereotypical poses for men.

  • Anonymous

    I know right, men are so stupid, they only know how to think with their dorks… save it buddy.

  • Anonymous

    Actually it’s been called an over the shoulder pose forever, until someone decided to have a problem with it. There’s nothing wrong with having good looking people looking good.

  • Anonymous

    I think they should have titled the movie “Captain America: Continuing The Tired Comic-Book Trope Of People Not Being Dead When They Died.”

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    “There’s nothing wrong with having good looking people looking good.”

    Did we say there was? I was just trying to explain even though you can’t fully see Johansson’s rear in the image, it’s still the trademark “butt pose” we often see. How many men are put in this pose versus how many women? Here’s a few more examples: http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/new-divergent-poster-continues-long-tradition-of-gratuitous

  • Anonymous

    Well, the gluteal muscles are some of the strongest in the human body. It looks to me like Black Widow knows where her strength lies and is flexing it just like the boys with their pecs and biceps. Sounds like equality to me!

  • Anonymous

    There are differences between the sexes. The female form isn’t built the same way. Putting a man in that pose would look ridiculous outside of some statement on gender roles. It’s aesthetics, period. Over the shoulder with a slight twist looks good because it accentuates curves. It shows up at every red carpet event. Madame Recamier was a fan too. And that link you posted was just a bunch of crotch shots.

  • Anonymous

    Which is indeed a much more important topic than kvetching about “The Butt Pose” yet again. A discussion about how WASPy this cover is, when one of the main characters is African-American, as opposed to how sexist it is would be apropos

  • https://plus.google.com/108831586029632971053 Franck P. Rabeson

    Tell that to whoever’s responsible for these annoying poses, because THESE people think that men need heroes only to satisfy their ego and heroines only to satisfy their libido. THEY perpetuate the idea that the male brain is mostly made of testosterone.

  • Anonymous

    LOL! Whatever works for you I guess. By the way, who’s the misogynist who down voted my Chris Evans compliment? Reveal yourself coward!

  • Anonymous

    “Sorry, you don’t get to decide someone else’s experience.”

  • Anonymous

    I don’t find any of those poses annoying. Not a single one. And I’m not basing any of it on my huge, throbbing, low hanging Y-chromosome. Get you mind out of the gutter.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    You’re kind of making my point. Aesthetics as they pertain to the straight, male, gaze, sure. Men aren’t saved from doing that pose because there bodies are built differently, I assure you. We even linked to a man doing the exact pose in the article: http://www.themarysue.com/tauriel-legolas-hobbit-butt-pose-poster/

    Also relevant: http://www.themarysue.com/tag/the-hawkeye-initiative/

    I’m not trying to claim it’s NOT a visual thing, that’s exactly what it is, I think you and I are just seeing the motive behind it a bit differently.

    And crotch shots? That link didn’t direct you to an article titled “New ‘Divergent’ Poster Continues Long Tradition Of Gratuitous Butt Poses” with a slew of “butt pose” posters? That’s where it sends me.

  • Ashe

    “Putting a man in that pose would look ridiculous outside of some statement on gender roles.”

    …You’re straight, aren’t you?

  • Ashe

    Hnngh. Her pose is more natural than what I usually see. But it’s still the boobs-and-butt pose. I can barely see her ass for the overlapping. But it’s still the boobs-and-butt pose. I could just almost see a man in the same position. But. It. HNGH.

    Where’s that Adele song? I gotta go put it on repeat.

  • Anonymous

    Masculine dudes can’t be gay?

  • Ashe

    Sure they can. What you said is still dumb as hell.

  • Anonymous

    Holy moley, now what’s wrong with that poster? Well, it’s pretty boring, but not because of the posing. And sorry, Orlando Bloom as an elve, the fair race, isn’t the best example of a masculine frame. Hector was the manly man. Paris, not so much. So, ok I should’ve been more specific than just “put a man in that pose”. Put you’re masculine heroic figure…

    The motive is that attractive people sell movies. Whether it’s through their badassitude or sexiness or some of both. And with both attributes being supplementary to each other, who’s to complain?

    Up above is a picture of a super soldier look he’s got those broad shoulders and strong arms and chest. He’s got a stoic look upon his face. He’s the personification of the powerful nation he represents.

    Next to him is his nemesis, powerful as well but with a brooding look on his face because he went through some dark sh–stuff before he got here. I bet he’ll get really mad at the world at some point. Maybe his tears of rage will make his manscara run.

    Then there’s the ex-assassin. She exudes sex sure, but it isn’t without reason. She’s a femme fatale, maybe she’ll mate with you (probably not) but she’ll certainly kill you, she’s a , sorry, she’s The Black Widow. She wears a black cat-suit.

    Now let’s all go see this movie so we can see what they’ll do to each other. Hope there’s explosions.

    No more butt shaming. Half of your body is behind you.

  • Aiden Pearce

    You’re right about your final note, maybe because there’s too much blabla in what you’re trying to explain. But fortunately you are pleasant to read

  • Anonymous

    I’m glad you think so! And, yeah, I do have a tendency to ramble on and on about stuff, rather than merely comment. So, glad you find it pleasant, and I totally understand if other people find it insufferable. But I actually don’t get many negative comments .I was more noticing an increase in hate-comments towards the blog posts themselves as of late.

  • Jo Grant

    For a pose that seems quite reviled by the Mary Sue (either as a team or by individual authors), I can’t help noticing that it appears in various forms next to the pic of your site header. After reading this article, I’m now genuinely curious: why choose a site logo of women standing in powerful poses ‘showing off’ their butts? Is it a satire of the ideal image of the female superhero? Or am I missing something?

  • KryptoBunny

    Oh, of course they’re posed. I just meant appropriate to the character — Cap isn’t his usual clean-cut self, but as far as I can tell from the ads I’ve seen so far, this is going to be the standard dark second act, so that’s to be expected.

  • SCP3

    Does a butt pose count when you cannot actually see all that much of the butt?

  • http://unbornunicorn.wordpress.com/ Amanda Gun

    I agree wholeheartedly about the posing! It looks pretty cool but they missed this golden opportunity to have the boy (the Winter Soldier, I presume?) pose the same way.

  • Travis

    Sexy is always the first thought. Power and respect are a means to that end.

  • regularman

    You know, that’s a good point, and with the way everyone complains on here, and with sites like this, they would be damned if they do, and damned if they don’t. They would complain about the front being shown off. Some person, one person, some where, would do it.

  • regularman

    That’s the point. Feminist white females don’t give a fuck about non-whites. Funny how they’re not so different than their straight while male oppressors.

  • Anonymous

    How many times have you seen an article posted here or on ‘sites like this’ complaining because a woman was posed bodily facing the camera in way that emphasises her importance rather than her boobs and butt, then? Never? I guess your comment is fatuous bull then.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t quite take your point? Hard to parse the sincerity from sarcasm – are you saying that this is better than BW’s rpresentation on the Avengers poster? And therefore there’s nothing to complain about?

  • Anonymous

    I feel like there’s a lot more male commenters adding their banal, ignorant voices to every comment thread at the moment, or am I imagining it?

    It’s kind of annoying, like trying to have an interesting conversation in a coffee shop but some overindulged idiot at the next table who thinks he has something dazzlingly original to say won’t stop stop repeating his view every few seconds.

  • Anonymous

    And there I think we have the point made at its most succinct.

  • Anonymous

    I have to admit I did wonder that once, but apparently the logo is chosen to be ironic. I’m not 1000% convinced it works – there seems to be a confusion of purpose (showing a selection of genuinely great cult heroines for us to sincerely admire/ironically posed for us to roll our eyes at).

    I think the problem for me is the same one I always have with cultural irony: it presupposes that everyone engaging with the image is working from the same understanding of the thing that is being lampooned.

    But I guess fuller logo discussion is inappropriate here – suffice to say for this discussion: yes, TMS know their logo is a boob-and-butt pose – they’re being satirical.

  • Anonymous

    Even an actor as successful as ScarJo is still small fry within the Hollywood system. I don’t afford her any blame for this, I just admire her for having the courage to speak/act out at ALL when she does. She’s one pretty powerless person within a system deeply ingrained with sexism and pandering to the male view.

  • Anonymous

    I’m just going to toss in my 2 cents, I know the focus of this site, and appreciate that. But as I am sure you know, one of Black Widows “weapons” is her ‘sex appeal’, it’s a distraction and part of her using it on her terms.

  • Vetinari

    Looking at that picture, it would only take a tiny bit of adjustment to create an alternate poster where Black Widow’s bum is concealed and instead we have Captain America subtly resting his package atop his shield for the world to admire.

  • Lisa Liscoumb

    Is it just me, or does anyone else hate BW’s new hairstyle? It makes her look like a sulky twelve-year-old (at least in my opinion).

  • tickles

    its because its only a problem when someone else does it. check your privilege.

  • Anonymous

    I hate that overused pose for women characters (particularly in skintight suits or skimpy outfits) so much. So much!

  • Anonymous

    I wasn’t.

  • Anonymous

    To each their own.

  • Anonymous

    That half turned pose is usually used for characters that have a bit of a dark streak, it sounds stupid, but it’s all psychology. Cap, is good as gold, so he faces you head on, looks you right in the eye. He has nothing to hide. She looks at you, but it is still hiding. If anything, Bucky should be in Black Widow’s pose. Yes, there are poses where you are going to see a girls butt, and boobs. There are poses where you are going to a man’s pecs and arms. There are overly ridiculous poses they get girls and guys into to show off their bodies, yes, but with this one…I think we are getting a little overly inflammatory.

  • Anonymous

    I want to see a south park episode where this issue of being cautions of how a woman is shown is brought up. Some producers could be working on a poster a movie where a woman is shown, the entire episode just making her position more and more ridiculously NOT to show her boobs and butt. Until the end, all thats left of her on the poster is like her close up of her skins cells or something. And the end message would be that girls would still feel like their bodies were being manipulated, either to show everything off, or be so covered so as to not induce the male gaze. The four boys could learn we should accept boobs and butts, they are there, people are going to see them. And we should treat them like another part of the body, not as items.

  • Anonymous

    Dear everyone in the comments saying that this is because “female bodies are just naturally more pleasing to the eye”, I want you to stab yourselves in the face and die.

    For actual real.

  • Ashe

    Men are used to being taken seriously no matter how low their knowledge of the topic is, that’s all. It’s just a phase.

    A sociologically encouraged, decades-long, power-tripping phase…

  • Ashe

    Women have an allergic reaction to facing the camera head on

    It’s just science

  • http://www.fangirlwithtea.com/ Pamela

    That’s the best analogy ever. And no, you’re not imagining it. There have been a lot more mansplainers and “but no my opinion is right, let me repeat it in replies to every single person in this thread!” commenters lately, and it’s frustrating that we can’t have a conversation without someone popping up to tell us we’re being hysterical women or something.

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    I’m just not a fan of flat hair. The fact that I parent a sulky twelve year has nothing to do with it! ;^D

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    Plus I imagine there would be a licensing rights headache if they were doing more obvious interpretations of the characters they represent.

  • Anonymous

    I do think it’s better than the Avengers poster, and I don’t think this pose is particularly sexualized. I mean, I can’t stop people from complaining, though. It’s the internet.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not a sexy pose though. No one classified Cap’s reverse shot as sexy, just because she’s a woman doesn’t make her simply standing “sexualized.”

  • Anonymous

    Mm. Plus there’s always the consideration that your opinion is not definitive and people have a perfect right to complain when they find something problematic.

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say no one has a right to complain?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always gotten that impression from her. Let’s be honest, she’s no Ellen Ripley.

  • Rick

    Apparently not.

  • Rick

    It’s “problematic” that Scarlett Johannson is in a sexy pose?
    I might agree if you said “demeaning” but, really, this is Scarlett Johannson.

  • Rick

    I think the point is that a lot of people are making a “just as bad as” argument, and that’s simply not the case. The notorious Avengers poster was notorious for a good reason: SJ’s pose was entirely unnatural and obviously constructed to highlight her butt. This picture? Not so much.

  • Carmen Sandiego

    And if it were as commonplace for men to be posed with their ass to tilted to the camera, this might be a different discussion.

  • Anonymous

    Depends on your choice of media options. If you flip through Pink, Curve, and Flaunt, you’ll see plenty of men in the pouty-lipped buttshot pose.

  • Carmen Sandiego

    Uh, I just looked up covers of all those magazines and it’s mostly women, some of them in butt pose. Your comment makes my point.

  • Commentator

    Um. The Mary Sue icon is in the so-called “butt-pose” So. This is awkward.