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Girls Just Wanna Have Fun

The Doubleclicks’ “Fake” Geek Girl Video Has Nothing to Prove


At the beginning of this month girl nerd band and sister act the Doubleclicks asked the lady geek community (with help from some special guest stars like Kelly Sue DeConnick, Marian Call, Wil Wheaton, Paul and Storm, Adam Savage and more) to help them make a music video, and it just might put a tear in your eye.

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  • Anonymous

    I’m 90% sure one of those girls was in the Silver Snail in Toronto :D

  • WellYesYouMay

    This is such an awesome project, and an awesome song! I saw it hours ago and I’m STILL GIDDY and squealing that the bug and I made it in!

  • Kornkob

    This made my day.

  • Joanna

    <3 <3 <3

  • http://www.dualshockers.com/ Dianna Lora

    Trying not to cry! That was WONDERFUL!!!!

  • Anonymous

    This was beyond adorbs. And my Tamagotchi wants something now. Yeesh!

  • Anonymous

    Lost it at the “Batman” sign.

  • http://anna.balasi.com/ AnnaB

    So much love. <3 <3 <3

  • Anonymous

    Aw this is so sweet, I love it… I must be one of the few thats never had my geekiness questioned because Im usually a bigger geek than all the guys around me combined.

  • Sarah Brockman

    John Kovalic is my new favorite Twitter account to follow. He gives me my daily dose of the Midwest, which (as awesome as LA is) I miss like crazy.

  • Sarah Brockman

    Personal favorite: Bugs!

  • Anonymous

    I’ll paraphrase a quote from someone else, but the level of arrogance it takes to think that women are faking an interest in comics and anime to the extent that they make intricate reproductions of costumes JUST TO GET YOUR ATTENTION TO DATE YOU is so damn astounding, I can’t even believe people think that way.

    Or at least I couldn’t were it not for a fact that sadly, these people exist in droves.

  • Athene Numphe

    A tear? I lost it when Adam Savage showed up.

  • Thomas Glen

    I’m finally understanding the scope of this issue (it’s so NOT me or my friends, I didn’t want to believe it.) Thanks to efforts like this, I’m trying to spread awareness and understanding. And if I see one of these really egregious consnobs, I’ll probably make an example out of them in public.

  • WellYesYouMay

    I just realized that I should add that “the bug” is my nickname for my daughter. She’s not the cool girl with the bug on her face. Though that girl is totally awesome.

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    I got tears, I ain’t gonna lie.

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    Moms raising the Next Generation of Geek Girls UNITE!

  • WellYesYouMay

    *vulcan highfive*

  • Sarah Corn

    Thank you for posting both the call for submissions, and the final results. I’m so proud to have been a tiny part of such an empowering and heartfelt project. Bravo!

  • Ashe

    Man, some of these comments!

    I think, like, the worst I’ve gotten is just lonely nerds telling me they ‘haven’t met a girl who likes videogames before’ or that it’s ‘weird that a girl is into games’. I’ve gotten funny stares here and there, but that’s it.

    I’ve yet to have anyone accuse me of aping my boyfriend, sheesh. Though, I would look forward to that, as my boyfriend will be the first to let them know I’ve repeatedly beat him in Smallworld and Super Smash Bros. c:

    Great video!

  • Ashe

    I never had my geekiness questioned as a kid-boys were always just thrilled to find someone who was not just hugely into the same interests, but who could draw too. WOWNEAT. OHCOOL. CANYOUDRAWMESTUFF? COMEHANG.

    It’s when I got older that men started to ask me questions and get confused and say stupid things.

    If kids can accept it with no issue…

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. I played Street Fighter with the five boys that lived across the street from me. No one ever felt the need to question whether or not I was capable of play.

  • Sally Strange

    AWESOMMME! I’m 35 and have loved bugs, slugs, salamanders, and other creepy-crawlies since I was her age. Still love rambling in the woods looking for newts and spiders and whatnot.

  • Aaron kooienga

    Just posted to my blog bravo for everyone who worked on this it’s great and the message needs to be made more open

  • Anonymous

    Kudos on the video.
    Most girl “geeks” are NOT fake. Even if someone is new to the scene it does not mean that can’t be a geek, we all start somewhere.

    I understand the dislike of people that are fake. Geeks are exposed to fakes all the time. You have the “booth babe” types that often have only thinly veiled contempt for the geeks. You have the “hot” girl walking around trying to get enough attention to become a reality TV star and figure that getting enough “fans” on Facebook might help launch their “career”.

    Much of the contempt girl geeks get come from fear. Most guy geeks have less than stellar social skills. Keep in mind that they treat other “lesser” geeks the same way if they demonstrate they really don’t know what they are talking about.
    Honestly I’m kind of jealous of the current generation because “now” they have started to have women that openly love they same stuff that I was mocked for enjoying.

    My advice for the guys, give the ladies the benefit of the doubt
    and don’t get frustrated if they may not know every stupid detail about the character, just enjoy the fact they actually like the same stuff you do and know that chances are a larger fan base may help more of the stuff you like keep getting made and we won’t suffer a tragic loss like a show like Firefly dying after part of a season, but a show like Jersey Shore continuing on for several.

    And ladies, understand that a lot of the guys need a bit of help.
    Ask them if they want to learn to polish their social skills a bit.
    Many of them don’t realize they are being a dick or just can’t stop themselves
    at times. You need to bring out the L.A.R.T. every once in a while. Many can yet be saved.

    And please, please, be upfront if you develop an interest in being more than friends. If you never see him dating, know hes not gay, have learned he might be an OK guy, but still are not interested, help clean him up a bit and set him up. Thanks.

  • Brian McDonald

    This was great. Really, it ought to be the last word on the “fake geek” discussion.

    Now, I have to go. Someone’s…uh…cutting onions in the office.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    My wife Pikachus the shit out of me in goddamn Smash Bros. It drives me insane. It’s a MOUSE. STOP DOING THE SAME ATTACK. MY STRATEGIES DO NOTHING. ARGH. There’s no one I would rather play with.

  • Willow

    Why don’t I ever learn not to read the comments? (this made kotaku. it’s as obnoxious as you’d expect)

  • Emily

    Yay! Happy to see my name in the credits!

  • Anonymous

    Short version: hey people, be cool with each other. Be nice and give each other a break. I agree. In geek circles, and in life.

  • Anonymous

    I’m lucking enough to live in a town with one of the greatest comic book stores. The owner had been a supporter of women comic writers for decades and welcomed both geek and non-geek women women into his store enthusiastically. He introduced me to many great female comic writers. Great guy, deeply missed.

  • Laura Truxillo

    “lonely nerds telling me they ‘haven’t met a girl who likes videogames before’”

    When I hear that…

    When I was (much) younger, it made me feel like, yup, had to prove myself that, well, THIS nerdygirl likes nerdthings and I’m special!

    When I was a little older, still felt like I needed to prove to them that girls could be geeks too.

    Now…

    Now I just think that is THEIR problem, and that:

    A) they have probably been around women who were gamers or nerds before, but that they never actually registered them, or automatically wrote them off as “someone’s girlfriend.”

    or

    B) that whatever nerdspaces they hang out in, either in out in the world or online are incredibly female-unfriendly, to the point that women either avoid it, use neutral names, or get attacked for voicing any opinion that could be construed as feminist.

    You get a pass if you’re a teen, but just barely. If you’re an adult, nope. It sends up a teeny red flag and makes me worry. Because “oh I live in a small town without a lot of nerds” isn’t much of an excuse–there is an internet, you’re on it, and women are everywhere.

  • Laura Truxillo

    I’ve never wanted to hug that man so much. And that’s saying a lot.

  • Ashe

    LOL. That is great. Pikachu is also great.

    Probably my second favorite, right after Ness.

  • Ashe

    I completely agree. It’s usually some combo of points A and B, too.

    Expanding upon your point B, they also create their own self-fulfilling prophecy of always being slack-jawed ASTONISHED at a woman’s existence, which would understandably make women…not want to be around them. Hey, who knew that always singling people out and not letting them just EXIST can make people feel alienated and unwelcome?

    When I got one of those classic comments during a conversation while waiting at a midnight release for WoW (full of girls, by the way), I told the fellow he ‘must not get out very often’.

    He declined to talk to me the rest of the evening.

  • Ashe

    Everything revolves around a straight man’s desires.

    Everything.

  • Ashe

    I agree with most everything (especially the comment on ‘every stupid detail’ UGH yes a thousand), except for this comment:

    “And ladies, understand that a lot of the guys need a bit of help.”

    Not our job. Considering women are already being vocal as hell in the media, news and day-to-day life, if a man STILL manages to miss out that maybe his behavior is awful and doesn’t change, it’s his fault for being either too sheltered or too stubborn.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    I lack the sophistication and finesse to understand how to use Ness’s powers correctly. :(

  • Anonymous

    I was once told that I “should really read comics” and then given a lecture on the Ultimates just because I was defending the casting of Idris Elba as Heimdal in Thor. So yeah. I know where all of these people are coming from.

  • Anonymous

    I did not say it was your “job”.
    This would be an act of charity on your part.

    We can choose to act to make things better, or let it go.
    It’s not my “job” to intervene when a guy is a dick to a lady
    in cosplay, but I’ll do it anyway. And no, not to play
    “the white knight” because frankly most ladies that choose to
    cosplay are a bit too young for me. I do it because I like
    seeing people have fun with the same stuff I loved as a kid and
    I don’t want some dick to ruin for them.

  • Anonymous

    The point of this video wasn’t to prove that MOST girl geeks are real geeks, but that there is NO SUCH THING as a fake geek girl. There is NO SUCH THING. End of story.

  • Ashe

    You don’t need to say it, but it’s implied in that statement.

    It’s not unlike when people tell women to ‘be more assertive’ or to ‘be more honest’ or ‘speak louder’. It’s putting responsibility on women to do MORE. Do MORE about reducing sexism, because what we’re currently doing just doesn’t seem to be enough.

    And I wouldn’t call that white-knighting, tbh. You’d just be helping keep safe spaces safe. That’s good.

  • Ashe

    But what about the OCCASIONAL and HYPOTHETICAL possibility JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE devil’s advocate and stuff and y’know

    just sayin’

  • Calum Syers

    I recently made myself very sad. I started browsing through the Youtube comments for this video which was a very, very bad idea! Why can’t I stay away from Youtube and IMDb message boards? They’re like heroin for the internet!

  • Anonymous

    Just gives people with the already conceived notion that there are fake cases that the cases they’ve already judged are indeed the exceptions that are definitely fake. It doesn’t change anyone’s perspectives. If you give an inch, they’ll take a mile.

  • Lourdes

    I wanted to be an astronaut when I was 6-7 years old, I was asked at school what I wanted to be when I grew up and when I said “an astronaut” everybody laughed at me including the teacher (a woman). So I dropped it but I think it’s not only guys that are giving the impression of “fake geeks” it comes from older women as well – it’s just the culture we live in. I’m sure 20 years from now there will be no such thing as “fake geeks” only because we, as a whole, are standing up against it now.

  • http://mangabotblog3000.popanime.net/ Brand

    This was a cute vid. Though man some of the comments it got on Kotaku were terrible. Could more people be more negative about something positive ever? Only Kotaku commenters.

  • http://mangabotblog3000.popanime.net/ Brand

    In my early 20′s I was a DM an on-going game of DnD. I was talking about it to some customer in the store I was working at. It was like I blew his mind. A girl playing DnD, and then a girl DMing a game of DnD? HOLY F*&K!

    He was all like “I’ve never seen a girl play DnD.” To which I was like “I’ve never not played with other females.” The dude was so confused.

  • Anonymous

    Think of it this way.

    You are on the beach and you see a piece of trash.
    Now, its not your job or responsibility to pick it up,
    but it will help things get cleaner faster if you do.

    And, if you happen to have seen the idiot that
    dropped it, pointing it out that people do notice that
    they are being a jerk sometimes gets them to fix
    their behavior.

    And, quite frankly, I don’t think the sexes are

    communicating quite as well as they should, do you?
    There is a great song by Garfunkel and Oates, two
    lovely lady comedians, called the fade away, that kind
    of points out one aspect of this dynamic, but that’s
    almost a side issue here.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but I’ve met them.
    Some of the ladies in costume are paid to be there.
    Of these, many enjoy the culture but others have nothing
    but contempt for it. Not all of them wear stuff to let you know
    that they are working so people can get confused.

    People sometimes get the characters confused with the actors.
    Jim Parsons is well known for not knowing much about geek
    culture, but he plays the biggest one on TV. I’m sure he has
    now absorbed some, but in the early years of the role he was
    pretty much a blank slate in that department.

    Women, and lets face it sex, have been used to market stuff
    for years. Thankfully more and more women have openly
    embraced their inner geek and that makes me happy.

  • Sarah

    I wish this video existed when I was twelve!

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    The ladies in costumes who are paid to be there aren’t fake geek girls either. They are models.

  • Anonymous

    It all depends on the individual and how they are interacting. And they are not all “models” either.

    They are certainly performers and people get disappointed when they realize that they are not “real” fans in the same way little kids get unhappy with the store front Santa that can’t name all his Reindeer.

    There are always those that pretend to know more about something than they do. Guys shoot other guys down over this all of the time. I don’t get the “need” to do this, especially to someone who certainly appears to genuinely enjoy the same things I do. Who cares if they are late to the game, being there early is something only a hipster douche should care about. Loving something also means helping fandom grow.

    Now there are the celebrity wannabes that are just trying to get a following. They all want to be Felicia Day, but are nothing like her in real life. I think we can do without those people. *shrug*

  • Ashe

    Yikes. You’re treating sexism like this grouchy ongoing argument that’ll only go away if we just ‘communicate’ better and ‘help the men’ out more.

    I would argue that constantly bending down to pick up other people’s trash enables their behavior. Why fix what is always getting cleaned up for you? What cause is there for you to change your ways? It’s a short-term fix for a long-term problem.

    Things won’t get ‘cleaner, faster’: they will stay dirty because the people screwing things up are having their behavior indirectly supported by others always cleaning up their messes.

    No, I prefer braying in the faces of jerks until they get the hint and quit.

  • Laura Truxillo

    “And ladies, understand that a lot of the guys need a bit of help.
    Ask them if they want to learn to polish their social skills a bit.”

    Is that something you do? Actively ask other men if they’d like to “polish their social skills.”

    I’m not a tutor. Life is too short to spend mentoring people who I am not tasked with raising or watching over (like siblings or baby family members) on How To Be.

    Y’know who you practice your social skills on? Friends.

    Do it as charity? Screw that. Nobody likes to be somebody else’s charity project, and this just reeks of that creepy Big Bang Theory vibe with Penny The Socially Savvy One swooping in to help the poor geek lads learn how to interact normally. It’s massively unpleasant, and a not un-creepy fiction that a lot of guys seem to tell themselves–the story of a kind, understanding woman who helps them overcome their flaws.

    There’s a very good reason for not doing that. Several, really, but the most practical is this–if they’re the kind of guy who is shocked by the presence of Women…in *his* Geekdom(? It’s more likely than you think.), if he is the kind of guy who actively needs someone to take him by the hand and Teach Him How To Social…odds are approximately 3,720 to 1 that he hasn’t been groomed by movies, books, tv, and his own mind to see Woman Being Nice To Him as Designated Love Interest. And take it from any geeklady (or any lady at all) who at any point has been down that road–it is long, uncomfortable, horrible, and usually ends with everyone being worse off than before.

    “Help clean him up a bit and set him up.”

    Really?

    I’m assuming we’re talking about grown men, right? Not children who need the smudges wiped from their cheeks with a dab of spit on a hanky, right? Because if you are a grown man, it is your own responsibility to “clean yourself up” and learn to act. You can do it with the internet or by asking friends “hey, was that alright” or something, but if there’s one concept we sure don’t need to be perpetuating, it’s that of the Mature and Responsible Woman Fondly Fixing Up The Manchild Like She Is His Mother.

    And set up? Funny thing about setting friends up–hilarious romcom stereotypes aside, most women DON’T like “a project” because projects are exhausting and usually disappointing. If you need to fix a shelf, you know that if you do A, B, and C, your shelf will be fixed, but at the end of the day, you can’t fix another human being. Just can’t do it. Most folks, male or female, have quite enough going on trying to fix themselves. And most women like their friends and don’t try to hand them a project either, even one that they’ve “fixed” out of “charity.”

    The litter analogy works better as this–you see someone drop some trash on the ground. They’re still standing right there. If they are a child, you might take them by the hand and explain that, honey, the rubbish bin’s right there. If they are any kind of grown adult, you say, “Dude. Throw that the hell away.” Because they are grown, and grown people and pick up their own crap.

  • http://discord-inc.tumblr.com/ James Fletcher

    I actually missed this when they were calling for submissions, but that video was amazing. It baffles me that there are still guys who think that girls don’t belong in geekdom.

  • R.O.U.S.

    This makes me sad that it took me until my mid 20s to embrace my inner geek.

  • Anonymous

    Soo…, you’re saying that someone at a con or on a circuit that’s there as part of their job (see:way to pay bills and put food on the table) is fake?

    You mean a person whose means of employment might be dressing up in a costume might not know everything about that role or associated culture?

    Do you quiz the guy that’s dressed up as Tigger about Winnie the Pooh?

    Why do you care if the woman hired to dress up as Electra or Catwoman -knows- about the character?

    Yeah, some of them hate it, I’m sure. That’s just people, man. People hate their jobs, but they work them till they find a different one/finish school/whatever.

    They probably have to deal with a lot of creepers. No-body likes that.
    And yeah, I totally except adults to understand that the costumed workers at Con’s etc to be aware that it’s likely just a job to them.

  • Anonymous

    Some people that work at Disneyland end up hating it. Does that mean they’re fake? Or does that just mean they’re people?

  • http://pearlrose86.livejournal.com/ Maggie

    Yeah, this definitely had me tearing up at my computer. I didn’t necessarily like the song — but the images are pretty freaking powerful. I spent so much time watching the images that I was actually kind of surprised to feel the tears in my eyes at the end.