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The X-Men and Fantastic Four Just Might Get it Together in a Movie

While, with the success of The Avengers, I’m sure we all dream of a day when Marvel Entertainment reacquires the film rights to the other half of its universe from 20th Century Fox, that same success has made it even less likely that the company will give up The Fantastic Four and the X-Men any time soon. But while Sony only has their hands on Spider-Man, Fox has two Marvel teams under their umbrella, and its Fantastic Four reboot is moving ahead. Does this mean we’ll eventually be seeing a team team up?

Mark Millar, the comic writer who’s taken on something of the Kevin Feige role at Fox, recently expounded on the very real possibility. While Millar’s been known to prevaricate on occasion, and besides that he’s a pretty divisive figure, if anybody would know, it’d be him. He told SFX Magazine:

Without question, I think you have to see some of these guys showing up in each other’s movies. I think the most exciting thing in superhero movies, until The Avengers came along, was when Nick Fury showed up in Iron Man. Even though it was a guy with an eye patch, it was really cool – and I expect we will see more of that.

I’ll admit to not being as familiar with the depths of the Marvel universe as the DC one, but I don’t recollect many strong connections between the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. The Human Torch is notably buddies with Spider-Man, Captain America and Wolverine fought wars together, and the X-Men will always have ties to the Avengers through Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Unless, of course, you count the connections between the X-Men and Doctor Doom, the Fantastic Four’s archenemy, through Wanda Maximoff. It’d be an interesting connection for a movie to pick up on, indeed, especially since Wanda is confirmed not to appear in X-Men: Days of Future Past. Of course, they could also go with mere cameos or create entirely new connections. It would indeed be interesting to see a universe where the X-Men showed up first, but the Fantastic Four became the first truly socially accepted superteam. That’s a source of some interesting tension.

(via The Guardian.)

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  • Adam R. Charpentier

    They’ve had a couple of major crossovers and none of them are very memorable to me, but I don’t the source material matters AT ALL in this case. Days of Future Past is going to shake up the X-movies in ways none of us can yet perceive (though, I think, most of us can agree that the franchise is still and probably will remain just…a mess) and the relaunch of Fantastic Four is still a giant question mark. Change the race of a character? Whatevs. Alter their personality or the course of their origin story? Potentially major. They could become an entirely different team than the one we’re aware of (and, please, let them be different from the fucking movies that already exist). So…I’m not sure. I’m vaguely looking forward to this, but I wish Fox would give up the ghost and let Disney/Marvel pull all of the characters together into THEIR universe.

  • Samuel

    Too bad Mr. Fantastic is a racist and would lock up all the mutants if given the chance.

  • Fisty

    Fox. Boo.

  • Anonymous

    The only really solid connection they have is that Sue and Reed’s son Franklin was the lover of Jean and Scott’s daughter Rachel in the Days of Future Past timeline. In her timeline, Franklin is disintegrated by Sentinels during a last ditch attack as Rachel sends Kitty Pryde’s consciousness back into the past to prevent their timeline from devolving into an apocalypse.

    Later, Rachel travels into the past with the help of the Phoenix, but hides that she’s Jean and Cyclops’s daughter. However, Franklin from her timeline appears in the past, having used his reality altering powers at the moment of his death to take him somewhere happier and safe. However, he’s merely a psionic ghost, who maintains his presence by drawing in Rachel and young Franklin’s powers. He accepts his death and moves on. This reveals his identity to Sue and Reed, and also basically forces Rachel to reveal her identity to Jean and Scott.

    Other than that, it’s as Adam said: a few crossovers, nothing too memorable or lasting. The FF were the ones who found Jean in the bottom of the bay after the Dark Phoenix Saga, which is how they could show up in a reboot film after DoFP.

  • frodobatmanvader

    Normally, I grumble about how the world-building in X-Men directly contradicts the rest of the Marvel universe and yada yada, but I *love* the idea you posed in your last sentence. If the X-Men come first, but the FF are the first to gain acceptance… I can see a whole ton of compelling drama/interesting humor come from that.

  • Brittany K

    Oh man I am so not interested in this happening, if only because the X-Men movies already try to take on a thousand characters per movie, so crossing over with the Fantastic Four…? No thank you.

  • ASM

    Wolverine was part of the new Fantastic Four and slashed the Thing’s face so bad Thing wore a face covering helmet for a while.

    Sue has cheated on Richard with Namor: The Sub-Mariner. Namor is one of Marvel’s first characters, pre-dating Cap and is their first mutant.

    Sue and Richard’s son Franklin is a mutant. Franklin and Onslaught (evil Xavier) have / had a strong connection. It’d probably be easier if you look up Onlsaught, than trying to explain the whole storyline here. I think the first Franklin Richards action figure was part of the X-Men Onslaught toyline.

    Once when Fantastic Four traveled back in time I believe they met a teenage (or very young) Apocalypse, then known as En Sabah Nur.

    The Onslaught connection is probably the strongest and would almost have to be a trilogy to tell the story half-way decent, since in the comic books it expanded almost every X-men then Marvel comic book for a couple months.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Huh, a premise where X-men are the first heroes but the fantastic four are the first publically accepted bunch…When you put it like that, im actually looking forward to this reboot.