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Daenerys Demands George R.R. Martin Tell Her Who Wins The Game of Thrones


Not that I’m ready for it to end anytime soon but yes, I am anxious to know how George R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire series ends. These characters have been through a lot and I’m rooting for more than one to “win” the Game of Thrones. But who will it be? Actress Emilia Clarke wants to know too. 

Thanks to Charles Dance, who plays Tywin Lannister on the series, we know Game of Thrones will be getting a fourth season. We sort of assumed as much anyway since HBO split the third book in half for the upcoming third season but it was a relief nonetheless. It means we’re that much closer to seeing Martin’s entire book series, which isn’t even finished, translated on screen. But Clarke would appreciate it if Martin would spill everything to her about Daenerys Targaryen. She spoke with Metro News:

‘I’ve said to George ‘come on, tell me who wins, please!’ And he thinks I’m joking and I say, ‘no, no, I’m deadly serious!’’ she gushed. ‘His lips are sealed. And I’m sure that David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss] know but they don’t tell anyone –I’ve got them drunk and they still wouldn’t tell me.

‘I’ve been pleading with them, ‘tell me who wins!’ And they won’t say a word. They’re under lock and key. ! But I care passionately about what happens to Dany. How could I not?’

If you’ve been following along with the books or HBO series, you know Daenerys isn’t the only one vying for the coveted Iron Throne of Westeros, but Clarke believes her character is different from the rest.

“I think the biggest thing about Dany is that she, unlike many of the other characters in the story, doesn’t have an egotistical desire to get the Iron Throne,” she said. “It’s not like this need or obsessive desire, it’s her destiny and there’s no control over it.”

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(via Metro News)

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  • Anonymous

    I would like to see Daenerys clean out Westeros, there is not much to admire in most of its current leaders.

  • http://profiles.google.com/kitfoxtrot Christopher LaHaise

    Daenerys and Snow team up, have lots of children, and take the throne, while Snow’s half-sister cleaves her way through the Lannisters.

  • http://twitter.com/Besomyka Besomyka

    I dunno, Luminous, I have a soft spot for that hard-ass Stannis. He’s practical, honorable, and – I think – puts the good of the realm above his own ambitions. I don’t think he sees being King as a reward, but his duty. It’s not something longed for, but something he is obliged to do for the good of the realm.

    I don’t think he’ll ever have it, though. He’ll be too caught up defending the realm from what lies beyond the wall – if he survives, I think he’d see that threat for what it is and act to confront the greater danger. Winter is coming!

  • http://seriousgigglesblog.tumblr.com/ Kimberley

    Even when the dust finally settles in Westeros, I would not call it a “win”, just an avoidance of death.

  • Anonymous

    Who ever killed Lady the Direwolf, has lots to answer for… LOTS.

  • Free hat

    well unless you can resurrect Ned I don’t think there much more that can be done to him, :P Personally I’m still siding with a House Targaryen/Stannis alliance until a dragon eats Stannis.

  • http://twitter.com/MildlyAmused Donna Dickens

    I’d have to respectfully disagree with Ms. Clarke about Dany’s motivations. The daughter of conquerers, she has no more right to rule Westeros than the lot of them. She’s just not as self-aware about her ambition. I believe every last one of them would claim it’s their “destiny” to rule.

  • Anonymous

    “I think the biggest thing about Dany is that she, unlike many of the other characters in the story, DOESN’T HAVEN AN EGOTISTICAL DESIRE TO GET THE IRON THRONE,” she said. “It’s NOT LIKE THIS NEED OR OBSESSIVE DESIRE, it’s her destiny and there’s no control over it.”

    She has to be fucking with us with this comment right? Am I the only one who sees the problem here?

  • Anonymous

    It’s ironic that Tywin Lannister spilled the beans on season 4. The real Tywin Lannister would never make such a tactical blunder.

  • Laszlo

    I wouldn’t say honorable, at least not like Ned Stark. He does have his code, but he doesn’t let honor get in the way of getting what he wants, and that often leads him to do some pretty bad shit. If Davos wasn’t there to act as his conscience, he’d be pretty villainous.

  • http://twitter.com/Selkiechick Selkiechick

    Winter. Winter always wins.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    Or was it a tactical blunder? Perhaps it only looked like one, but was really a shrewd maneuver.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    Or, she has become Daenerys, and really believes this is true about her own motivations. Which would be really cool.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    It kind of depends on Martin, doesn’t it? He seems to have put some “prophecy” stuff in place, although the whole supernatural aspect of his stuff is relatively subtle. It’s hard to determine whether he’s at all serious about the what the comet is supposed to mean, or if that’s just a big macguffin for all of the characters to use as justification for what doing what they really want to do.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    I think whomever ends up on the throne is going to be the one who best figures out how to defeat the white walkers, who are going to pwn the hell out of everything really soon. Daenerys is probably going to be the most likely candidate, what with her owning the dragons, who were clearly bred to kill off the white walkers in battle. If she keeps the dragons, which isn’t all that clear.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    I think the white walkers are going to take care of cleaning out Westeros for her, and sooner than everyone thinks.

  • Anonymous

    RIght, I was kind of hoping she was espousing her opinion of Dany’s motivations in the voice of Bizarro, but I fear that she’s actually just being earnest. It’s an especially glaring contradiction after re-watching the second season. You don’t even have to go to the books to pick up Dany’s weird sense of entitlement, it’s all there on the screen.

  • Anonymous

    Dany seems particularly insistent that it’s her right to rule which, given that she’s done exactly nothing to level up her governing abilities, is funny because she’s actually the least fit to rule. Well she’s easily a cut above Joffrey, but I think even Bran would make a better King than she would a Queen.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    But the Targaryens do have some unique relationship to the dragons, though – Dany can’t be burned, after all. Thats probably why the Targaryens inter-married for so many generations, to keep that resistance to fire and whatever else made them dragon-born in their DNA. And the dragons are the key to keeping winter at bay and thus saving the world.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    I disagree with this to an extent. Yes, the Targaryen’s were conquerers but before them, there was no one ruler of Westeros, there were 7 kingdoms. Aegon was the first true ruler of the realm, which is why Daenerys thinks taking the throne is her destiny and right.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    A sense of entitlement, sure, but I wouldn’t say it’s weird. She is the rightful ruler as far as we know.

  • Laszlo

    But that could also mean the Starks, to her they’re also just the usurper’s dogs.

  • Anonymous

    “or if that’s just a big macguffin for all of the characters to use as justification for what doing what they really want to do.”

    I think this is the most important function of the comet: to serve as, what the characters believe to be, a symbol of the righteousness of their claim to the throne. I don’t believe the comet is some supernatural key to who will eventually prevail, just a statement on how we tend to look for validation for our actions.

  • Anonymous

    I think this matter is still up in the air. If R + L = J then J could be the rightful ruler of the Targaryan line. Either way, this is the medieval times, and anyone who conquers the iron throne will become the “rightful” ruler.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    I think the thing that really is in Dany’s favor is the immunity to fire and affinity to dragons. I mentioned above that it seems to me that the Targaryens were probably trying to breed for those traits through inbreeding, probably to keep the dragons and thus the power, without really understanding why they needed it – to fight the white walkers.

  • http://twitter.com/octarinareboot Lady Octarina

    “I will take what is MINE with fire and blood”. If the use of the possessive doesn’t indicate at least a certain dose of selfishness, I don’t know what does. Add to that the use of her House’s words – conqueror’s words – and the fact that if she plans to use dragons to take the throne, regardless of who gets hurt, of how many crops burn out of her desire to sit on that twisted thing, of how many commons die of fire or starvation, and I’m left wondering in what way can Clarke possibly think what she does about her character.

  • Anonymous

    I believe Donna is correct in her assessment of Dany. Yes, Dany believes she has a “right” to the throne because her family conquered Westeros and ruled over it for many years. And she believes it was unfairly usurped by a dishonorable brute. However, it was taken from the Targaryens the same way they took it from the Seven rulers years ago – by force.

    What Dany fails to realize is that no one has a legitimate claim on the Iron Throne – it isn’t won by the purity of your claim – it is won and held by force, and this is what she is beginning to learn in the East as she builds and army capable of toppling the great houses of Westeros. Frankly, I’m surprised Emilia would claim that Dany’s motivation isn’t based partially on ego and ambition, or that Dany hasn’t obsessed over reclaiming what she believes to be her birthright.

  • http://twitter.com/octarinareboot Lady Octarina

    But that’s the thing, she doesn’t own the dragon. One could say she owns Drogon, the fiercest dragon, but Viserion and Rhaegal will probably pick their own riders and have nothing to do with her, apart from owning their existence to her.

  • http://twitter.com/octarinareboot Lady Octarina

    Targaryens aren’t immune to fire. Aegon V and his son Duncan died in the fire of Summerhall. His brother, Aerion, died when he drank wildfire trying to turn himself into a dragon. I think there was something about Aerys being burned in one of his pyromaniac moments. Daenerys herself was burned (blisters, actually, but still) in one of her last chapters in Book 5. And finally, if the R+L=J is correct, Jon Snow is a Targaryen and, as we all know, had his hand burned when fighting the wight.

    Daenerys isn’t an exception or anything; GRRM himself has declared that the only time she wasn’t burned was the night she brought dragons back to the world, a one-time event that isn’t likely to be repeated. Which is why here I am hoping she will die on the final book when Drogon decides she would make a delicious barbecue.

  • http://www.commonplacebook.com electrasteph

    I’m not sure we have enough information about that. She is immune to fire, and she did “give birth” to the dragons; without her they’d still be stones. Dunno what that means about “owning” them exactly, but it means there’s something going on with her affinity to them. I don’t recall if people other than the Targaryens kept dragons or rode them; I think it was just the one family. It’s possible that she and her other family members are the only ones who can ride or control them.

  • Anonymous

    Which hits on another theme that Martin has explored: rulers exist to serve their people. What is power if not for the betterment of your land? I think Dany’s journey has been mostly about this idea – coming into power and figuring out how and for what that power should be used. The Targaryen’s fire-based abilities seem to exist, as you say, primarily as a weapon against the White Walkers, not as a tool for conquering lands. It’s an interesting discussion about righteousness and power.

  • Sara

    I don’t know, I’ve always felt that Dany doesn’t WANT to rule, but feels that she HAS to. Not for herself, but for her family in a weird way. As far as she knows, she’s the last Targaryen, the last of a powerful house that conquered nations and created Westeros as we know it today,a house of modern legend. She grew up being told of the nobility and power of her house, how they were destined to rule and I always thought that she feels she has to restore her family’s honor, return the name Targaryen to its former glory. She may want to just settle down, but if she’s all that’s left, who else will do it? If she just let’s the Targaryen house fade out, she’d feel like she was doing a great disservice to her family, her parents whom she never got the chance to meet but literally never heard anything bad about.

    So I get her weird sense of entitlement, her determination to get on the Iron Throne, but I never saw anything self serving about it because I think in her mind, it’s more the destiny of House Targaryen that she’s trying to fulfill, not really her own.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always felt that way – this whole thing started as a result of Dany’s seriously weird upbringing, and her bits of the books have been about her trying to reclaim her own life. She’s making some bad decisions now, because she so desperately wants control, which she’s never had, over her own life. All the bad decisions and weird happenings have been teaching her what it is to rule. The rest of them are all just fighting, they’ll claim the throne with their swords like Robert did, but they won’t know what to do with it once they’re there.

  • Anonymous

    I always felt that Dany wants to rule because she believes she’s the rightful ruler, and for her that was enough reason to justify any and all actions. It’s one of the few traits she’s seemed to inherit from her brother, that obsessive desire to sit the Iron Throne. There’s little thought given to what exactly her rule would be like, how it would differ from King Robert, or what it is she’d be doing for the people of Westeros. She repeatedly states that when the people of Westeros see their true Queen they’ll rise up and support her, but that’s just plain delusional.

    ***spoilers follow***

    I do think that Dany was on the path to learning about the ins and outs of statecraft – this is highlighted by the whole cultural kerfuffle with the pit fighters and her lack of understanding of their needs, (not to mention her destruction of the social and economic order of at least one major city) – but before we can get to that point she hops on her dragon and flies away.

    Now it’s a little unfair to ask one character to carry such a burden. Her current situation in the books is the result of, dare I suggest it, poor planning on Martin’s part. I have a feeling he’d written himself into a corner with her character in such a way that her story had progressed further and faster than anyone else’s in terms of her character’s arc. I imagine that she’ll roam around for awhile as a nobody to learn what life is like for the plebes, thus helping her better understand the needs of the little folk … thereby making her a better ruler …eventually. This is fine, but in the meantime I find her character sort of insufferable. She was great when she was growing as a person/character as the Khaleesi and as a young woman. But once those dragons showed up she turned into little more than a petulant child. That was the sign for her that she was the chosen one, etc.

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    My honest hope for the series is that the damned throne is melted down and monarchies abolished, anything less than that, I’ll be disappointed. The whole thing has been such a deconstruction of the fantasy genre that ending it by enforcing the status quo will be such a letdown.

  • Anonymous

    I’m almost certain it will be “Jon Snow is a secret Targ and gets the throne.”
    But Sansa better at least become Queen in the North if not of all Westeros

  • http://twitter.com/BeholdTheHair Mitch

    As far as I’m concerned, Sansa needs to pull her empty head out of her ass, display an ability to actually learn from her experiences and show some freaking initiative before I’m even willing to consider her worthy of continued breathing, let alone ruling the North. I know a lot of people think being with Littlefinger is going to somehow transform her into a power player, but I’ve yet to see the slightest indication she’s anything other than the same stupid little bird who idolized and dreamed of marrying Joffrey.

  • Laszlo

    Then you aren’t paying enough attention. Sure, she did nothing so far, but she’s shown quite a bit of understanding of how shit works. Even before Littlefinger, like when the Tyrells were talking about how there’s no need to worry about Margaery because he has Loras to protect her from Joffrey, she realized it doesn’t work like that, he can’t do anything to him because it would mean all-out war between Lannisters and Tyrells. Or later she guessed that Lyn Corbray is Littlefinger’s man, for example,

  • http://wrongsirwrong.blogspot.com/ Magic Xylophone

    Just watch, he’ll kill her off for asking too many questions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Donald-Maginnis/27408945 Donald Maginnis

    Look at the title of the series. “Song of Ice and Fire” Replace “song” with child and replace “Ice and Fire” with Stark and Targaryen. Unless he throws us for a complete loop, I think the symbolism is slapping us in the face.

  • Amber Barnes

    SPOILERS
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    The Targaryans controlled dragons through dragon-horns that they carried with them from Old Valaria. And since we know that dragons were a fixture of Old Valaria, it stands to think that anyone can control a dragon with a horn, but the Targaryans with their fire-proofing, get a distinct advantage.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think you’re right about her. It’s not about ambitions. She started off wanting a home. Then she found one with the Dothraki and I honestly think she would have stayed there if Drogo hadn’t died.

    But then he did, she lost her home again, so she keeps looking. And on the way she finds injustice and she relates to slaves because she was a pawn on her brother’s path to the throne so she gets tangled into this web of duty and doing the right thing. I don’t think she’s in it for the conquest at all. it would be easier if she was.

  • Anonymous

    She’s going back full circle though. Like she was meant to do. To go forward, she must go backwards. We don’t know yet what will happen in Book 6.

    I do believe her need to go back to Westeros stems from a very different place than Viserys. He wanted vengeance for the humiliation, losing his mother, his home, his place in the world. They called him the Beggar King and he had to make the ones responsible pay for it.

    She just wants a home. She thinks it’s Westeros, because that’s where she was born, but she keeps dreaming of that little red door in the Free Cities because that’s where her home was for some time and she felt safe there. She almost got to find a new home with the Dothraki and now she’s back there, let’s see what happens.

  • http://twitter.com/markusvonroder Markus Roder

    True. It’s the “Steve Jobs’ years in the wilderness” story arc.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve read the books and that makes me only disagree more with you. She could get the hell out of dodge when things get sour, if she just wanted to rule anyone, take the money and run to Westeros. She doesn’t because she feels a responsibility to finish what she started and to the people she freed. Because of all that happened with the other cities.

  • Disabledmilitaryvet1

    In the end, I believe a woman will rule everything. That woman is Daenerys Targaryen. Also, I am waiting for a Lannister to get killed off as they always seem to escape by a hair.