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The Walking Dead Recap: Sorrowful Strife


I would just like to point out this is the third week in a row I’ve used a picture of someone from The Walking Dead looking through a window. (Last week, the week before.) Ok, moving on.

[SPOILERS]

A couple weeks ago I mentioned I wasn’t sure where the last few episodes were going to take us considering all we were waiting for was the big confrontation between Woodbury and the prison. We had to sit through a whole lot of exposition in “This Sorrowful Life” but luckily it paid off in the end.

It’s a little jarring when an episode picks up and you realize decisions have been made the audience didn’t get to witness. For instance, last week we left Rick asking Hershel to talk him out of giving Michonne over to The Governor. This week he’s already in the midst of how to do it and while we can see Hershel is uncomfortable, we never hear him provide the cons. Rick includes Daryl in the plans and does the same with Merle after finding him searching for drugs in the mattresses of the prison.

Some preparations are going on at the prison in case Woodbury attacks again and in the midst of all that, Glenn asks Hershel’s permission to propose to Maggie.  I just assumed he’d go and ask her after that but no, he went and search for a walker with an engagment ring and cut off her finger to get it. How romantic! Glenn and Maggie proceed to have the most casual proposal ever – he places the ring in her palm and she says yes.

I’m skimming over most of the other little chunks of this episodes because really, the fun didn’t start until Merle went sort of rogue and kidnapped Michonne without waiting for his brother or Rick. With her hands bound he starts walking her to the meeting point with Woodbury and while we’ve come to expect Michonne to be rather violent and wild, she seems oddly cool and collected. Perhaps because she’s already assumed she’s going to be able to get out of this.

It’s not easy, though. Along the way Merle and Michonne encounter several walkers which the former easily dispatches with both her sword and his knife-hand. But they run into some trouble when Merle decides they’d be better off hotwiring a car. Leaving Michonne tied to a pole, he goes to work, only to set off the car’s alarm and alerting several walkers to their location. It’s here Michonne might have won best walker kill of the entire series. Merle had her tied with wire and when a walker gets too close, she runs around it, trapping it in the wire and pulls until she severs the head. It was pretty sweet.

They eventually head off but have a serious heart to heart in the car in which Michonne tells Merle he’s not actually as bad as he thinks he is. He admits to having killed 16 people since the apocalypse to which asks if he killed anyone before. No, he hasn’t, and he didn’t kill anyone before he met The Governor either. I think Merle was already on the road to redemption but Michonne pushed him over the edge. He lets her go and sets off on his own journey.

And his journey? Well, it’s getting drunk and taking sweet revenge on The Governor. In what also may be another series best, Merle pulls a classic prank on some walkers (with good reason). He blasts the car radio and drives off every time they catch up to him. Like your asshole friend who says “get in” but drives off every time you reach for the handle. His goal was to lead them to the Woodbury meet in the hopes they would cause a bit more havoc. He hides himself in one of the abandoned buildings and when The Governor and crew arrives he starts picking them off one by one.

Unfortunately, a stray walker causes Merle to be found out and The Governor himself pops in for a face to face. The two fight rather brutally but The Governor wins out because he’s completely bonkers and bites off two of Merle’s fingers. Merle realizes he’s done for but doesn’t want to give The Governor the satisfaction. But he’s had enough and shoots Merle instead of bothering with torture.

This scene was intense, and a welcome addition to the show but it was what followed that really brought it home. Daryl had been tracking his brother and comes upon the battlefield a while after Woodbury had gone. Merle has turned into a walker (a bit too decomposed for a fresh one if you ask me) and is chowing down on one of the fresh kills. Daryl breaks down and keeps shoving his brother back, hoping to delay the inevitable, but finally puts Merle down for good.

Oh and yeah, Rick realizes he was being a terrible human being by even considering giving Michonne up, gives a heartfelt speech to the prison crew, and then realizes he better have a good apology ready when he sees Michonne heading back to the prison alone.

While this episode went in another direction to tell another story, it was a little frustrating not seeing Andrea at all considering how she was left in last week’s episode. But Merle’s character got a chance at a satisfying story arc and the creators did not disappoint. I’m still disappointed in Rick’s decision making skills, and intelligence for that matter, especially when you consider he and Michonne totally bonded recently and he still decided to give her up to save the group. Here’s hoping this week was a turning point for him. Now who gets the honor of killing The Governor next week in the finale?

Let us know what you thought of the new episode in the comments and we’ll see you back here next Monday for another recap!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/hstarke Hannah Starke

    Considering how much I hated Merle, I was really impressed that the show made me horribly depressed when he turned out to be a walker. It was one of the better episodes this season for me.

  • Renee I.

    The writers have really been turning it on right at the end for me on a character. Andrea annoyed the crap out of me, but I found myself very upset when she didn’t make it to the prison then same deal with Merle.

  • Jenn W

    I was also a Merle hater, but I think he managed to redeem himself before biting it. I’m really interested to see how this is going to affect Darryl. (I really hope he gets to be the one to take down the Governor). I thought Maggie and Glen’s engagement scene was pretty and practical. I truly believe that Rick is beginning to come around to his old self and will not be making such insane decisions from now on. All in all, I really enjoyed the episode and was kinda glad to get a break from Woodbury and Andrea for a bit. Seems like the finale is going to be a good one.

    Oh, and kudos on the article. I especially like the part where you describe Michonne decapitating a walker and then starting the next paragraph with “They eventually head off….”. Well played.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Same here.

  • John Wao

    I love this show. Next to Game of Thrones it’s my favorite but the way they’ve handled the characters on the show, well it’s amazing this show has done as well as it has I’ll leave it at that.

  • Philip Lopez

    Now you’re going to HAVE to find a photo of someone looking through a window for next week.

    I hated Merle up until about the time he ended up at the prison. I think he’d (slowly) been becoming a more interesting character and I was a little sad to see him go. If nothing else that scene with Daryl was incredibly sad. On a happier note, the engagement scene was very sweet. There’s got to be some happiness amidst all the horror, right?

  • http://twitter.com/Chizwick Charlie

    “It was a little frustrating not seeing Andrea…”
    No way. I was totally glad to have a break from her and that Woodbury nonsense.
    Also, seeing Daryl cry and struggle to push away his zombie brother may be one of the saddest things ever.

  • Anonymous

    Merle’s death was as heroic as it was horrific. Daryl’s reaction to seeing his brother as sad as it was devastating… there better be a devastating death in store for the Governor… both him and his lap dog with the glasses…

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s super disgusting that there has been no shit, actual talk of “handing over” a woman (and a woman of color, at that!) to a known rapist-murderer. WOW. This fucking show.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dana-Kay-Bach/1043956249 Dana Kay Bach

    This season needs to end with Rick losing his hand and the baby dying. It’s the only way I see this moving forward in any way close to the comics. I know they’ve already made serious departures from the GN but still, I feel they’ve been trying to reconcile some of those differences in these last episodes.

  • Countermass

    Daryls Scene with Merle at the end was really awesome, nice work Reedus.
    But I felt less statisfied with Ricks “heartfelt” speech – to me it sounded like former “alpha-guy-dominant sermon”-speeches, with the difference that now the actual content was democracy he ripped off before.

    And what’s with him and leaving instantly after his speeches?
    “…so it’s all about democracy – we will vote. I decided so!” *Rick turns round, walks off, clicking fingers*

  • Countermass

    I don’t know the comics, but maybe I missed the part of the Governor being a rapist at this point of the show. The girlfriend of Glenn (can’t remember her name) was “only” threatened, or did I get something wrong?

  • Anonymous

    Pretty sure “threatening” rape, or in the case of Maggie, sexual assault, is right up there with being a rapist. So yes, he is a rapist.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t Herschel and Daryl initially express their opposition to the idea? In pretty subtle ways of course, but I definitely picked up on the fact that they did not necessarily like the idea of “handing” one of their own over to The Governor. Even Rick struggled with the notion before finally coming to his senses. They all knew that handing her over wouldn’t stop him from trying to kill them all, but more importantly they knew that it was just WRONG. Even Merle figured that out and let her go. Michonne is who the Governor wanted to take his revenge on because of what she’s done to him. Had it been any other character, I suspect the request would have been the same. The fact that she’s a female of color was purely incidental. Given the circumstances, I think anyone might have -if only for a second, and as a somewhat knee-jerk reaction- actually considered turning her (still practically a stranger) over if there was even the slightest possibility that it would ensure their survival a bit more. Even if they eventually realize that it wouldn’t be right.

  • Anonymous

    To me this doesn’t seem like something they are doing in a cavalier manner at all. The act of giving up one of their own, a human being who is problematic (she didn’t talk to them at first because she was guarded and didn’t trust them) but has proven herself to be super kick-ass, isn’t something that Rick took lightly. They knew they would be doing something evil, and ultimately beyond their ability, even if it meant everyone in the group would die.

    How did you feel about the white male backpacker being left to the walkers a few episodes back? This show is all about difficult choices.

  • Anonymous

    My money is on the lap dog being the one who kills the Governor.

  • Camille Monae

    Yeah… i too found Merle’s turn into a walker a bit fast as well. In the first season it took hours and sometimes days to turn and now it seems to be instantaneous

  • Anonymous

    A human being is not problematic when they are guarded (don’t even get me started on how they are portraying the only main woman of color in this series…). I didn’t like them abadoning the dude with the backpack, either. I honestly don’t like the whole “now that it’s the apocolypse, we’re all evil!” No, Rick, you were a garbage dude before zombies, you’re a garbage dude now. Congrats.

  • Anonymous

    “The fact that she’s a female of color was purely incidental.” I bought up her race, because this whole thing stinks of something more, then if it was a white woman. And no, you have to own the context in which this show runs, which is a rape culture, with a side of racism to people of color.
    And…no, actually. Not all human beings are default garbage people. I would never consider that, because I expect more of myself. This “oh human beings are just selfish, etc!” bullshit, is just that.

  • Countermass

    Save your attitude for people who don’t know how terrible such things are. I never posted to “save” the Governor or to say that threats of rape aren’t this bad.

    My only question is, if the Governor could be a known rapist to the characters if Maggie only told Glenn (and spared him most of the details), and nobody else knows. Or did they know? That’s the question I asked myself, nothing else.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    It’s getting formulaic. They did the same thing with that prisoner that was killed four episodes back. Basically, if anyone has character development that hasn’t before, I expect them to die now. It’s sort of like Scooby Doo.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Yeah. “We’ll vote. Later. I have to use the potty.” And he went off to poo.

    I just thought the speech was a little much since he was essentially talking to a deluxe van full of people.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7HQNDMY6N2FVGGPWH4Z55AVU3E MaryAnn

    It was nice to see how Merle was really trying to redeem himself. At one point I didn’t care what happened to him even though I did not want his character to be killed off. I think he was one of the best ones on the show. It was a great ending scene with the Dixon brothers. Merle you will be missed, this is the BEST show ever and I’ll admit I am totally addicted!!

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Glenn has been very vocal about how frustrated he is about what the Governor “did to Maggie” but I don’t remember him being explicit. I’m sure they’re all ASSUMING she was raped.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    A human being IS problematic when they are guarded and your next door neighbors are a trigger happy commune ruled over by a sadist. The reason they can zip on by a backpacker or think of a person as a bargaining chip is because they’re becoming detached from their humanity. That’s what this episode was all about…even Michonne opened up to the least likely of people and everyone (of the prison crew) got a chance to show off their humanity and make the right decisions for a change.

    This show is a lot less crap when these people act like people instead of survivalist dipshits. …it’s still mostly crap, though.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Argh, I think I actually agree with you.

    They absolutely considered this because Michonne is OUTSIDE. She’s OTHER. She’s remained pretty guarded since she joined the prison, so they haven’t gotten to know her, so you can excuse it any way you like but without knowing her as a person, they can look at her and go, “She’s obviously different…she’s not like us…we can consider this option.” They wouldn’t have dumped Carol or Andrea like this and they were willing to allow a white prisoner to join their crew while locking up a perfectly fine and non-threatening group of people (Tyrone’s party). There’s a lot of very subtle, not well thought out, surprisingly racist moments in the show.

    And I emphasize “not well thought”. I cannot believe they don’t test these episodes before running them…is everyone asleep when they do that? Does no one think, “Gee, maybe not everyone is white in GEORGIA,” or, “Maybe we shouldn’t kill off a minority character immediately after adding a minority character?”

    And, yes, super rapey too.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Right, and then he’ll stay behind to run Woodbury. It’s like a Hallmark movie. Or that episode of Doctor Who with John Crighton as Sheriff Useless.

  • Countermass

    Right, now that you mention it, I remember Daryls statement. At first I thought he meant the “capture and keep them prison”-thing, but the undertone sounded different. After all – Jill mentioned that there were decisions the audience didn’t get to witness.
    I’m curious if the topic comes up in later episodes, or if they’re (again) missing the chance of serious character development.

  • Anonymous

    I was speaking of characters on a television show, not actual people. Characters -on a television show about flesh eating zombies- that might momentarily consider the life of a veritable stranger worth the possibility of survival no matter what gender or color they are. I never said people were (or you) were selfish or “default garbage”. Michonnes race is incidental to the story, not your comment. I KNOW you brought it up because I replied to YOUR comment. You seemed to see a lot in my comment that wasn’t there. what else are you seeing that isn’t there? I’m not denying that there have been a great deal of questionable decisions made on this show when it comes to characters of color, but I don’t think it’s actually driving this particular story. Even if Michonne were played by a white actress the Governer would still want his revenge.

  • Anonymous

    You mean the portrayal of a WOC that is exceptionally capable of taking care of herself in a world gone to shit? Like the way she can easily defend and provide for herself and others against all odds? Like the way she can fight off flesh eating zombie attacks, endure torture, outsmart enemies and escape capture? Is THAT the negative portrayal you’re speaking of?

  • Renee I.

    No you are right about that!

  • Renee I.

    I know!!! Michonne is one of the biggest bad***es on that show! (Anyone else here want to take katana lessons?) Her character is far more developed in the comics and they are slowly getting there with her in the show. The fact is that this is a society with no rules and I know damn sure that when it comes to protecting my family I am capable of a whole lot when there is no police dept or government in play. Now I agree that they are currently not finding a good balance between humanity (the backpacker) and self-preservation. But considering how badly they got burned by that nutcase at the prison, can you really blame them? There aren’t a whole lot of them left.

  • Renee I.

    I’m also going to agree that the characters of color are not being treated properly (especially by comparison to the comics) but in the case of Michonne I am also going to agree that this is about revenge for Penny and his eye. It wouldn’t have made sense from a story perspective for him to ask for Maggie or Carol. However I would challenge that in this particular world your ability to survive would be severely compromised by maintaining moral standards that must exist in today’s non apocalyptic society.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    I think it’s fair to assume that the creators/writers of the show see people at their basest as barbaric and phobic of everyone and everything.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Merle admitted to killing sixteen people and his unspoken excuse is, “I was only following orders.” Fuck that guy.

  • Countermass

    Exactly. A speech about selfdoubt, sounding like a GOP opening…
    But we will see how long it will last.

  • Countermass

    omg. It’s like Star Trek all over again!

    Thanks Adam, now all I can see are redshirts…

  • Anonymous

    Unless Daryl does it with a ball peen hammer and ultimate ferocity…

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Heh, I hate to say this, but I was thinking of the bear in Muppets that turns to the dragon and says, “Are we working for the bad guy?” It’s like Rick had a moment of realization (OFF SCREEN, of COURSE), looked in a mirror and did *not* see a twirly mustache, and decided to stop acting like an a-hole.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barb-Piaskoski/100001081512992 Barb Piaskoski
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christina-Morejon/1058281650 Christina Morejon

    what does her being a “woman of color” have to do with anything you dumbass? Would it be better if she were white? the whole point is that its barbaric irregardless of whom it is…why do idiots always have to mention someones color? WTF does that have to do with anything?

  • Anonymous

    The backpacker thing did not sit well with me. Yes it’s a brutal world they live in now, but they barely batted an eyelash when they found a sole LIVING human being coming down that path, and then they literally drove over his guts a few hours later to grab his belongings. It made no sense for that to happen. It illustrated nothing we didn’t already know. Like you said, their numbers are dwindling and who knows what that guy might have been like -friend or foe – you deal with that when the time comes, but portraying them as just leaving someone out there to fend for themselves because they just stopped giving a shit was bogus because it’s clear they still care somewhat about human life.

  • Vanessa Zambrana

    Firstly, this thread is at 42 comments, and I almost hated to end that. Especially just to point out that you missed a wonderful chance at a rim shot joke when you spoke of Michonne killing the walker with the telephone cord and then began the next paragraph with the phrase, “They . . . head off . . .”

  • Anonymous

    You cannot know, for sure, what my “attitude” is, unless I tell you. So kindly take back your tone argument; I won’t have it.
    If nothing else, the Governor has been trying to kill them all, so they all know he is a murderer. I was referring to us as an audience; we know what type of douchebag he is.

  • Anonymous

    No…….obviously, it’s not.

  • Anonymous

    And I’m saying, as I have been since I started commenting on The Walking Dead here, that I disagree with the idea of Apocolypse=people become sociopaths. I believe these people already WERE that way, and they’re using an external influence (omg zombies!) as an excuse. I find that problematic, in a culture such as ours’, that already blames external influences, and/or victim blaming, to take the responsibility away from the predator.

  • Anonymous

    I am seeing things that aren’t there, now? Fascinating!

    Now that you have clarified which human beings you were talking about, I can see that. However, it doesn’t change my stance. Fictional or not, I believe in and expect more of human beings. You disagree; great.

    “Michonnes race is incidental to the story, not your comment.” Really don’t understand what you’re saying there. But I will just rinse and repeat what I said above; this story is being told, in a culture that is hositle to people who are not White, Male, Straight and Able-bodied. This has a lot more baggage to it then if it were a white woman.

  • Anonymous

    “They absolutely considered this because Michonne is OUTSIDE. She’s OTHER.”
    Exactly. Hit the nail on the head. As for the non-intentional racism, it doesn’t matter. It’s still hurtful. In fact, I’d say that’s almost worse; how terrible is it to find out this whole time you’ve been stepping on other people’s foot without even knowing it? This is how oppression works, though; we swim in it without ever seeing it.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s make this clear: you’re insulting me, and expecting me to answer you. Nope!

  • Anonymous

    Yes, I understand that you have certain expectations of real people, and even though you posted earlier that the fictional characters on this show were sociopaths BEFORE the Apocalypse, you somehow expect the same of them? T.V. watching wise, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Especially by watching a show like this! Perhaps you will be a lot less disappointed, at least in fictional characters, if you stick to the Disney Channel.

    I want to reiterate that I largely agree with you when it comes to how this show has treated characters of color, but I just don’t think this particular turn of events in Michonne’s story line is a good example of that. What I saw actually, was the brave, calm and skillful way she got into Merle’s head and precipitated an overdue change in his crazy redneck mind and secured her release in the process, without so much as lifting a finger against him. That is about as positive a portrayal that ANY character on this show can get.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    And I’m thinking that it’s mostly lousy writing that it appears that way. When they zip on by a backpacker, they’re steeling themselves to ignore him, and I don’t think it works. I think that’s why Rick lost, why Shane was losing it, why they all seem to be in stages of grief despite having lived in this world for more than a year. The human mind would adapt but not if it’s being forced in certain directions. That’s why I enjoy the show more…why the prison people are less incredibly fucking annoying when they aren’t acting like survivalists. It’s forced. It’s a put on. They’re not that way. The Woodbury people…the governor especially…is the mirror opposite. He’s using every excuse in the book for his actions but Merle described him best. He doesn’t save ammo because it’s sensible he does it because he likes using his hands, because he’s a psycho and probably always has been one.

    I think Michonne’s attitude when she came to the prison makes sense but it was a poor choice. If you expect to be part of the group, you can’t scowl at everyone, act defensive, and refuse to answer questions, not when what they’re dealing with is a militant bunch of crazies just a few miles down the road.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    It’s interesting, though, because while I think the writers are lunkheads for not realizing what they’re doing, I think that it seems realistic for the characters to react like they did. Racist, yes, of course. Like you said, that’s almost worse. They can justify it by saying she’s not really one of them…and shrug it off…but if the only part of her they’ve come to know is how she looks, then what they are unintentionally meaning is that she’s not white, so it’s O.K.

    The ONLY argument I saw for dumping her that wasn’t racist or cowardly was the one Rick used to manipulate Hershel. Would he trade his children for her? In that argument, I think it wouldn’t matter what she looked like. It could have been Rick or Andrea. If the only people that might be left in the world are your friends, some strangers, and what’s left of your family, all cooped up in a prison, of course he’d throw the stranger to the wolves to save his children.

  • Anonymous

    Okay. I still think it’s very fucking disgusting etc, blah blah, my first post repeated.
    I find it sad you think the only positive influence to human beings, story-wise, is Disney. Do you know how racist and sexist they used to be/still are? Christ.

  • Anonymous

    Just because something was/is in our history (or present day) doesn’t mean it has to be reflected in our stories. If you have a bad idea, what’s the point of continuing talk of that idea? It’s bad, unprogressive, so dump it. Also, who the hell says that there couldn’t have been a group of feminists who survived the zombies? I want to hear their story.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah true, but didn’t Rick grab her and immediantly start torturing her, when Michonne arrived? Fuck, I’d stare at them with hosility too; completely valid reaction.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    But then this entire comment thread is moot. We all agree that the writers either don’t know what they’re doing or don’t care and their ideas are shit, so why bother discussing it? Agreed, though, that other points of view would be interesting. We’ve been with these yahoos for too long.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    I can’t remember. Did he? Then why did she stay? I wouldn’t have stayed. This show is terrible.

  • Anonymous

    And I think it’s terribly sad that you cannot understand obvious sarcasm when you read it. But it isn’t surprising considering how well you have demonstrated your inability to pick up on ANY sort of nuance or tone whatsoever -be it the writing on the show, or anyone trying to have a dialog with you about the show on this thread. You’ve made your point dear. It’s a mad mad black/white racist/sexist world you’re in, blah blah blah…you’re disgusted…climb off the cross already.

  • Anonymous

    ….I honestly am dumbfounded by your statement. I bring this up, because I expect more, and I know media can be done without the bigotry. I know this because I personally know people who do what they can, to check their privilege, to be more inclusive…so these people exist. And some of these people are making their way into the workforces that produce media. Not only that, but we can teach others how to do this. Sexism, racism, homophobia, ablism, etc, it’s ALL LEARNED. Therefore, it can be UNlearned. I will not silence myself with the idea of “but I might not be listened to”. Damn right, I might not. But my silence equals acceptance, and I do NOT accept the way this show is written.

  • Anonymous

    Hm, indeed, I did use the word “only” incorrectly. I suspected it was implied. I am also interested in how you’ve been trying to have a conversation with me, rather then a “gotchya!” conversation…because that’s what you’ve been doing. I think I almost have a Silencing Technique Bingo with you, as well.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    You confused me or I misunderstood. I was responding to “If you have a bad idea, what’s the point of continuing talk of that idea? It’s bad, unprogressive, so dump it.” I was questioning that statement. Not, like, telling you to knock it off.

  • Anonymous

    Oh! Okay. Well, I meant that as an “why continue even the idea, let alone actions and talk of racism, et all other bigotry, even in media.” Thank you for clarifying, and apologies for assuming.

  • http://twitter.com/Tonks07 Mandy

    Hasn’t the groups’ loss of humantiy kind of been a big running theme of the show? They are acting in horrible ways. Leaving people to die. Talking about murdering fellow living people (when in S1 this was a big no-no). Not helping any of humans they come across (ex: backpack guy). Ect. I thought Rick actually considering handing her over to save himself/his “family” fit with that theme of ‘how far will you go to survive or to protect yourself/the people you care about.’

    also I think we should remember that we the audience know MUCH more about how crazy/bad the Governer is than I think the Prison group does. They have Maggie & Glenn’s experiences. Has Michonne even ever told them about the zombie head tanks & his zombie kid? What all would Merle spill about him?
    We see a lot of things the group doesn’t.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Hah, it’s OK. We seem to always be at odds, so I tend to expect the worst possible response from my perspective, too.

    Now that I understand, your comment makes complete sense. Racism has been discussed (poorly) in the show and used to show the evils of (mostly) men, but it hasn’t been “fixed” and it’s the same old story that it always is, so rather than perpetuating the myth of THIS IS HOW THINGS HAVE TO BE, let’s move on to something else before the show gets even worse…is that sort of what you’re saying? Like, let’s move on to (your example) a feminist group and see how they’re coping with a zombie apocalypse. That sort of thing?

    If so, agreed. They beat the topic to death and not even introspectively. And they did what television ALWAYS seems to do, which is turn the most blatantly racist asshole in the world into a martyr for the protagonists’ side as if you could repent for a lifetime of cruelty in one last act of, surprise, surprise, violence.

  • Anonymous

    At this point, I’m certain I don’t need you to assign me any homework. I’m not trying to “gaslight” or “silence” you. All I did was present my point of view on the subject YOU brought up. Your immediately caustic reply to that can be to blame for any breackdown in dialoge from there. yes, you have a point of view, but not much to support it, or at least not much your willing to communicate to support it. no, you don’t need to explain yourself to anyone, but why start the conversation in the first place? Or is making a statement then plugging your ears with your fingers whats to be expected of you. I see from other conversations you’re having that you also have a bad habit of (willfully or not) twisting others words around so as to take offense so you can then call someone out as being “part of the problem”, that or you posse an inability to understand how adult conversations work altogether. Lastly, I don’t know what a “gotchya” is, but according the the urban online dictionary it’s ” a retarded way of spelling gotcha”. So….there’s that.

  • http://twitter.com/AvianaKnochel Aviana Knochel

    Unspoken? Bro he says those EXACT WORDS to Michonne in a different episode. And then Michonne calls him a Nazi, because she’s classy that way.

  • http://twitter.com/AvianaKnochel Aviana Knochel

    You kinda deserved it though. It shouldn’t really matter what Michonne is in a post-society society. Rick could be handing over Daryl or Herschel and you should still be upset. That’s the point.

  • http://twitter.com/AvianaKnochel Aviana Knochel

    Except Michonne turns out to be correct in her instincts, and also has great maternal/older sister interactions with Carl, and has incredible interior decorating taste. Michonne acts like an animal in fighting situations because ANIMALS ARE GREAT FIGHTERS. She acts pretty awesome otherwise.

  • http://twitter.com/AvianaKnochel Aviana Knochel

    He had a speculum on the torture table. Andrea is gonna get raped with a piece of metal held by the governor, which is close enough.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Forgot about that. You’re right.

  • http://melancholywise.tumblr.com/ Sophie

    The Walking Dead is a fictional show that came out of THIS society…which has a problem with racism. It is written by people from this society, who have grown up surrounded by racist messages and they are now perpetuating these messages in their own writing. You cannot separate a piece of fiction from its real world context. Michonne’s race matters because she is a fictional character that exists within our society not a real person who exists in a “post-society society”.