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The Last of Us – Left Behind: The Zombie Apocalypse vs. Female Friendship and Much, Much More

This past Friday Naughty Dog left everyone a wonderful, fungus-and-scream-filled Valentines Day present: their first single-player story DLC for The Last of Us, in which the only player character is the game’s teenage co-protagonist Ellie. Left Behind promised to expand up on the early history Ellie as first established in a comic book miniseries written by game director Neil Druckmann and drawn by Faith Erin Hicks, no stranger to creating comics about zombies, the post-apocalypse, or teenagers.

But Left Behind holds a special surprise for anybody who can appreciate the novelty of even a short game that’s primary storyline concerns the relationship between two teenage girls and also has zombies in it. If you have, or can obtain the means to play it, I recommend you do at your earliest convenience. That surprise isn’t likely to remain a surprise for long. (Warning: This review will spoiler cut revelations about the plot of Left Behind, but will talk openly about the events of The Last of Us)

Left Behind interweaves two separate plot lines, one ripped straight from one The Last of Us‘ time jumps, in which Ellie searches for medical supplies to treat an unconscious Joel after he was impaled on twenty year old rebar in the University of Eastern Colorado. The other takes place after the American Dream miniseries, but before the events of The Last of Us: Ellie’s good friend Riley unexpectedly breaks into her government boarding school dorm room in the Boston quarantine zone after an unexplained absence of more than a month and convinces Ellie to sneak out with her for a night of mischief like old times.

It becomes pretty clear over the course of the DLC that one of these plot lines is the “story” plot line, and one of them is the “combat” plotline, and to be honest I’m not certain whether I think that’s poor integration of the core gameplay of The Last of Us with what was the primary narrative of Left Behind, or an effective and perhaps even necessary way of setting the tone for the Riley portions of the game. In Colorado, there are items and health kits to craft, zombies to shiv, environmental puzzles to solve, and, it should come as no surprise, plenty of regular old violent human beings to contend with. In Boston the game’s various mechanics of throwing, shooting, climbing, and jumping are repurposed (and in one touching scene, some new ones are invented for a video game with the video game) to various less violent (ok, well, at least less deadly) teenage games and competition.

I think my primary problem with the gameplay of the Riley portions of the game was not necessarily that Ellie and Riley weren’t gunning down or sneaking by Infected left and right, but that those repurposed mechanics weren’t actually advancing the plot. It was not necessary, for example, for Ellie to beat Riley at window breaking in order to see the next cutscene and move on. And while it didn’t annoy me at the time, it is not clear what is supposed to connect these two stories until the very end, when Riley’s dialogue is laid over cutscenes of Ellie and Joel, which only highlights the difference in progression between the two.

On the other hand, one of the things I complained about in my review of The Last of Us was that I was unable to read the game’s pacing, and spent even the most relaxing, deliberately hopeful moment in the entire game tensely waiting for the other shoe to drop. I didn’t have that problem with Left Behind, and when the Riley portions of the game reach their long-awaited climax (from the very end of The Last of Us, we know that Riley and Ellie were bitten at the same time, resolved to lock themselves away and go mad together, only for Ellie to find that she was immune) your progression becomes very dependent on playing well.

But ultimately, either way, I don’t care enough about the fact that the stakes were lower in the Riley half of Left Behind, because the Riley half of Left Behind was still the best part of the game. The Last of Us pairs Joel and Ellie as two puzzle pieces whose vulnerabilities fit together. Joel feels that he’s experienced loss that cannot be healed in his life, and Ellie feels that the events of her life have been defined by being abandoned. The title of The Last of Us describes what is Joel’s major character moment in the game: changing his “me” to an “us” that includes only Ellie and no one else. As far as he’s concerned there’s the two of them and no one else, even if it means saving the whole of humanity, matters. As a title, Left Behind succinctly sums up both the ultimate question at the heart of the Riley plot line, and its eventual foregone conclusion. Riley and Ellie resolve to die together, but Ellie doesn’t die. Riley goes where she cannot and leaves her behind, in a world without her friend. Well, actually, without her girlfriend.

Let’s get spoilery! If you have the means to play Left Behind and haven’t been spoiled about it yet, go play it and don’t highlight this paragraph until you’re done. Look, I’m a writer and I’m interested in creating and living in a world where we have a more diverse representation of folks in our mass media than at current. And that means that sometimes that even when I am experiencing stories I’m thinking about the ways they could be better, not just from a purely critical point of view, but also from the standpoint of minority representation. I reached a point in Left Behind where I actually took a deep breath and told myself to stop reading things into Ellie and Riley’s relationship. “Yes,” I thought, “Wouldn’t it be great to be playing a queer female protagonist in the hotly anticipated update to a 2013 Game of the Year title? But, you know, playing a DLC update to a GotY title that’s entirely about the friendship between two teenage girls is still pretty freakin’ significant, and I’m happy with that.” Not two scenes later Left Behind established beyond a doubt that Ellie and Riley have romantic feelings for each other, and indeed that those romantic feelings were the entire catalyst for the plotline.

I don’t have much more to say about that. It’s awesome! It was adorable! My feelings about it are best summed up by this spoiler filled Tumblr post. That’s all. Go play Left Behind.

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  • Silvermoonlight

    The girls maybe becoming closer in this manner made a lot of sense to me, because if you were in a world which is filled with infected people you would get drastic drops in the population and like in war the people who are still alive would develop much closer friendships. Much like the male/female soldiers have done during the the world wars in the past and in some cases these relationship would go beyond friendship regardless of the gender.

  • Ali Miller

    Seriously, when I was watching ~that scene~ before ~it~ happened, I was like, “This is some really overt subtext, thanks animators, you’re really not afraid to imply that – HOLY SH… WE ARE NOT IMPLYING.”

    Seriously, props to everyone involved with writing, acting, animating, and directing this project, because it’s not just the fact that it happened. It’s the way it happened: so nuanced, believable, and gracefully done.

  • Anonymous

    Part of me just still really has a problem with the way they developed and then did with Riley.

    Like the fact that they all but made it clear she was queer as well was just like rubbing salt in the wound. I really enjoyed the DLC but I’m at this point where I’m just really sick of the black best friend having something horrible happen to them to progress the plot for the white protagonist.

  • Teamugs

    I’m sorry, I just really dislike this reasoning and I keep seeing it everywhere. Queer women exist outside post apocalyptic fungus zombie worlds. Why do people have to rationalize it beyond understanding that Ellie is a gay character?

  • Jamie Jeans

    I have not played this DLC, but I did play the game, and I did watch a Lets Play of the DLC, for which I am thankful as I did not waste the money on it.

    Look, this game is gorgeous in its detail, and the writing was fantastic in that DLC, with Ellie and Riley acting like the young teenagers that they are. I didn’t buy it because I knew that this was the progression of a story of a white character over the body of a black character, a theme I’m honestly quite sick of seeing.

    So when that reveal came around that, yes, there was indeed more to Riley and Ellie’s relationship, it came as a total kick to the gut as well as more annoyance that this is how the writers choose to showcase the black characters in the game, as yet more victims who die while the white characters live.

    I had the same problem with The Walking Dead, where Jackie commits suicide in the CDC building, and she isn’t even named until season 2 by Lori, and only then to further showcase Lori’s feelings of loss, helplessness, and anger at the world they live in. Where T-dawg has NO character development and we only heard his real name ONCE in season 2 before he was killed off in season 3.

    Yes, it’s great that this DLC is about a female protagonist going against convention, but that doesn’t mean it fails in other areas, and whereas it was failing in that it killed off a black character to develop Ellie’s character, it’s now twice as bad for killing off a black, gay character, something we rarely see in ANY of this genre of story telling, no matter the medium.

    About the only thing that gives it any kind of saving grace is its writing, but it’s not much. It’s merely building upon the narrative of black people as victims to push the white character’s story.

  • Silvermoonlight

    I never stated that Queer women only exist in post apocalyptic zombie worlds and I’m not trying to rationalize that Ellie is a gay character I’m happy that she is a gay character there are not enough gay/lesbian/bisexual characters in games overall. My only point was that relationships change during war, its well documented. I meant no offence to anyone and I apologise if I have offended you, I found this post difficult to word.

  • Teamugs

    You didn’t offend me and I appreciate your explanation. What is frustrating me is that many people seem to saying “things change during war/they became close due to their situation” come across as though they are looking for justifications for Ellie and Riley being queer as opposed just letting them be queer. Certainly things change during war but all Riley and Ellie have known is war and even beyond that here doesn’t have to be a reason for them to be in love beyond the fact that they are queer and love each other.

  • Anonymous

    Haven’t played it, dare I ask?

  • Ryan Colson

    I never got a gay subtext from Riley, and Ellie even says sorry.

    I wonder if the semiconfusing part was ND fearing backlash since technically it is not clear if the feelings are mutual or if Ellie is just being teenagery.

    I know folks will not agree, but even my gf felt it was too grey and I wanna say a line in the real campaign makes Ellie seem bisexual at best.

    Anything in LB feels too vague but i bet the ama on reddit will clarify it.

    Still it was great and the action parts aee inferior to the main prequel.

  • Erin Treat

    No one is trying to define Ellie’s sexuality. She’s 14. She could be a lesbian, bisexual or something else. The important part though is that she IS queer. And also, I’m sorry but the feelings were definitely mutual on Riley’s part.

  • bizzy gie

    But it’s only because of this apocalypse that they even met. No doubt, the whole thing threw them together.

    I don’t even know why homosexuality is a matter of discussion (well maybe because Druckmann himself talked on it).

    When I first saw the kiss, it wasn’t a romance thing in the least.
    It was the equivalent of a really big hug at the pure elation that her best (probably only) friend in the whole world would give up her dream just to stay with her.

    But then Druckmann had talks of her sexual orientation and cutting out overt scenes that hinted at something more than just a strong friendship and that there was, indeed, a more-than-friend relationship between them.

  • Teamugs

    The part about the apocalypse is so deliberately obtuse I am not going to address it.

    It’s fine, you don’t have to see anything romantic in it, but plenty of other people do and it seems to be what the creators intended and trying to deny it is throwing a queer female character under the bus.

  • bizzy gie

    I never tried to deny anything. I simply my first impressions then what I found out to be actually true.

    However, it appears that you’re trying to deny that Ellie and Riley’s situation didn’t drive them very close to each other (more so than normal I mean), but that a relationship this strong would be apparent in an alternate universe where everything fine and normal.

    It’s possible yes, but this bond between them was because of them meeting at the quarantine zone, because of Riley leaving Ellie for 46 days, because she came back and gave her an unforgettable experience in the mall, and (the icing on top of the cake) Riley giving up her dream to be a Firefly to stay with Ellie.

    That’s what drove the kiss.

    Have I explained myself or am I still being “obtuse”?

    It’s not an excuse and it most likely wouldn’t have happened in a regular non-apocalyptic world.

  • bizzy gie

    I believe she’s 13.

  • Teamugs

    Yes, it could have. People meet each other and form bonds, depart from each other, come back and do amazing things and make sacrifices for each other all the time in the real world. These just happen to be in the context of the zombie apocalypse. Yes, it caused them to meet but I think it’s wrong (and kind of shitty) to say they’re queer *only because* of the zombie apocalypse. It ignores the fact that zombie apocalypse is everyday for them. That’s why I strongly disagree that Ellie’s and Riley’s queerness can be brushed off with putting the state of the world under the “unique and shocking events pushes them together!” trope.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry, but that’s pretty much a load of BS. Being in a post-apocalyptic world wasn’t the catalyst of their romance, nor did it influence their sexual orientation, they like each other and that’s all there is to it.

    So tired of seeing comments from people trying to come up with convoluted explanations to turn a romance into something platonic when it’s obviously not.

  • Anonymous

    There is an Ellen Page joke somewhere….

  • bizzy gie

    I never stated that the apocalypse influenced their sexual orientation.

    I explain this in my last paragraph. The circumstances drove them together and caused the kiss, but whether or not Ellie has always been attracted to women was never explained.

    Although I’d expect her to be a lesbian if she always was from the beginning.

    However, Druckmann stated that her sexual orientation wasn’t a subject covered in the main and he decided to focus on it on the DLC.

    I did get a very platonic vibe from the kiss when I first saw it and I’m not wrong for that. I just perceived the kiss as a token of appreciation (like a really big hug) for Riley choosing her over the Fireflies.

  • bizzy gie

    But I never stated that the apocalypse drove to be homosexual. Just that it drove them together. An apocalyptic world is still much more intense than regular one even if these girls grew up in it and it’s all they know.

    Whether or not she was (or even is) a lesbian or bisexual wasn’t even covered until the DLC and even now, it’s still a very gray area.

    She could be lesbian. She could be bi. She could be straight and was just caught up in the moment of keeping her best friend.

    My guess is the last one.

    However, views will vary.

  • Teamugs

    I don’t know about you but I generally don’t make out with my friends. I’m a queer woman with mostly female friends but the line between friend and girlfriend are still defined.

    Views will vary, but I am not sure why you need it spelled out so clearly. The implications are there. If Riley had been a boy, no one would be saying “well, maybe they were just caught up in the moment and Ellie is actually a total lesbian!”

  • bizzy gie

    As I stated, she could be any orientation, but maybe she felt a sudden attraction or maybe it was a harmless kiss that was just on the lips.

    Had it been on the cheek, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. It was short and no tongue was involved.

    Riley also doesn’t return the kiss however expresses that she had no problem with it.

    Wiil Smith kisses his son full on the lips all the time, but they’re most definitely not attracted to each other romantically.

    It’s just a sign of affection. In some countries, kissing is the equivalent of a handshake (yes I’m aware that Ellie and Riley are American).

    I didn’t think much of it. She was just happy that her friend was staying with her. That’s the way I saw it.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not even sure why there’s a discussion about this. Neil Druckmann and Bruce Straley have done something like 3 interviews since the game was released and have said very clearly in each one that Ellie is attracted to Riley and that they dropped hints about her feelings in “American Dreams” as well.

    But apparently some people out there need to convince themselves that girls kiss each other on the lips out of “friendship” or in times of high stress (rofl), and that Ellie is straight or “confused”.

  • Teamugs

    I had no idea that they had done that. This entire conversation is moot.

    Why does the idea of queer women freak people out so much that they need to think of reasons why a woman would dare not want to be with a man or why she would kiss another woman.

  • bizzy gie

    How did you not? I brought up Druckmann already and again in my latest reply (preceding this one).

    I described that he stated that he hadn’t covered her orientation in TLOU and decided to do so in Left Behind.

    I was simply describing my first vibe I got when I first saw the kiss and arguing that it was a valid vibe to get even though I already know I’m wrong.

  • Teamugs

    Saying that he wants to explore her sexuality (which is what you brought up) and outright saying she is attracted to Riley are two different things. The second leaves absolutely no room for confusion.

  • bizzy gie

    I didn’t say he wants to explore her sexuality. I said that he stated that he was going to address it in the DLC meaning focus more on it and decided to make her a lesbian. Not see where things go.

  • Teamugs

    Except for when you said-

    “However, Druckmann stated that her sexual orientation wasn’t a subject covered in the main and he decided to focus on it on the DLC.”

    Another word for focus can be explore and

    “Whether or not she was (or even is) a lesbian or bisexual wasn’t even covered until the DLC and even now, it’s still a very gray area.”

    So I guess you argued against yourself?

  • bizzy gie

    Focus is not a synonym for explore. You might want to brush up on your grammar.

    He focused on it in the DLC meaning he determined her orientation and decided to tell that story. It’s simple. Stop making it overly complicated when it’s not.

    Again, I was stating my initial impressions before I read Druckmann’s interview.

    For ME, it was very gray area and still would be, but the creative director himself stated that Ellie and Riley had feelings for each other so I can’t dispute that.

    His confirmation is the only thing that made it black and white. The story itself, I feel, is still very gray.

    Especially when it spend most of the time building a seemingly strong, but platonic, friendship.

  • Teamugs

    Stop being pedantic. The point was that saying the DLC was focusing or exploring her sexuality is less on point than a saying that Ellie has feelings for Riley. As someone who had never seen these interviews, that poster allowed for me to understand how clearcut Druckmann had been. I have no idea why you felt the need to come at me with “how could you not know that”, especially considering you’re the one making it complicated here when you are arguing about your initial feelings despite admitting the creator has said you were wrong. So I guess we both agree there’s nothing to argue.

  • Sean B

    Oh man, this game. I played it, and played it a second time almost immediately after (recovery time!). There’s just so much joy, and playfulness, and loneliness, and violence, and love, all pressed into a 2 hour package.

    Incredibly, somehow ND outdid their work on The Last of Us. The actors and the artists communicate so much while being so conservative in expression and dialog. Everything just pours through Ellie and Riley’s eyes and facial expressions – and what they don’t say.

    That pivotal scene, and Ellie’s up-to-eleven-over-the-moon-teenager-in-love look of need, after Don’t Go. And Riley confirming (no dialog!) everything Ellie was hoping for and more. It was wonderful.

    It feels SO genuine. I play a lot of games, but I’ve tried and I can’t think of anything else that honestly comes close. Not TWD, not all of myself that I put into Mass Effect, nothing.

    adjective: genuine
    truly what something is said to be; authentic.

  • bizzy gie

    You still seem not to understand that explore is not a synonym of focus.

    He never touched on her orientation in TLOU.

    Now he said he was going to do that.

    This means he’s going give her an orientation and tell a story with it.

    Not make figure it out in the game.

    It’s not pedantry at all.

    Just common sense.

    And I was arguing how it’s perfectly understandable how someone could have just got a platonic feel from their relationship even if it was wrong.

  • Anonymous

    Zombies don’t have to be undead, look at the Rage zombies from 28 days.

  • Bailey Fields

    oh my god dude, give it rest.

    no1curr about your utterly misguided ~initial reading~ of the text.

  • Bailey Fields

    same as other commenters have said. couldn’t enjoy it knowing Riley was going to be a corpse by the end to advance the white character’s narrative. seriously surprised this article says nothing about how gross that is, and the other instances in this game where black characters die and the white protagonists live, following the well-established trope.

    I’m also not so sure about blanking out the queer relationship as ‘spoiler text’, seems kind of misjudged. It’s canon. I guess I get the intention not to ~ruin the surprise~ but it’s kind of gross to treat this like it’s some plot twist narrative reveal.

  • Teamugs

    It is pedantry. Ellie’s sexuality has not been addressed so it was going to be focused on and/or explored in the DLC due to focusing on her relationship with Riley. You are just being a really big butthurt baby over the fact that I appreciated the other poster’s explanation over yours.

  • Ali Miller

    I definitely agree with you about TLOU’s problematic treatment of black characters as victims. It’s frustrating and should be talked about more often.

    But I don’t feel treating this relationship reveal as a spoiler is “gross” – that’s pretty standard for any movie/book/series… I don’t want to know which way the ships go, any more than I want to know other plot details. It’s nice to preserve the events of the narrative for people who want to experience things fresh. Lord knows that’s hard enough to accomplish with the spoiler-rumor-happy Internet age we live in.

  • bizzy gie

    I was explaining how it could be viewed as something more platonic than it was.

    I’m not the only who thought little of the kiss.

    One let’s player on YT I watched didn’t see anything romantic either.

    If that’s the case, no one “currs” about any opinion anybody has on anything.

    There’s no need for Disqus or any comment section for that matter.

  • Bailey Fields

    ‘I don’t want to know which way the ships go’ – sure but let’s be real, it’s basically never in the f/f direction. I find it disingenuous to pretend like this is like any other ‘ship’ that becomes canon.

    This is so unheard of in game narratives it’s a total aberration. I get spoiler text for a f/m pairing reveal, but for something so appallingly underrepresented, I find it odd to hide it away in the spoiler text instead of leading with it. In other words, this is no ordinary spoiler and in the decision to keep the ending secret, I think steps on the reporting of the thing as it deserves.

  • bizzy gie

    You still are incapable of realizing how incommensurable ‘focus’ and ‘explore’ are.

    And you’re trying to demean my argument to an emotion of “butthurt”.

    I guess we’re done here. You’re just talking in circles now.

  • Bailey Fields

    ‘One let’s player on YT I watched didn’t see anything romantic either.’

    aw so you’re both deluded homophobes who can’t interpret the obvious when it doesn’t suit your views. that’s sweet.

  • bizzy gie

    Not seeing anything romantic has nothing to do with gender.

    It would be the same way if Riley were boy. I would’ve felt it was platonic still because the kiss happened right after Riley gave up something big for Ellie.

    Homo- the same; identical

    phobia- and illogical fear of something

    homophobia- the hatred of gay people?

    Did I miss something?

  • Teamugs

    Using big words doesn’t make your grasping at straws less obnoxious. I didn’t have to demean your argument because you don’t have one. But you’re right, I am done putting up with your continuation of the argument when you attempted to chase me down after I commented to another poster who clarified a part of the interview better than you did and so you decided to fixate on a single word and ignore the fact that what she said was more relevant and more clarifying to the discussion regardless of whether you said “focus” or “explore”. Toodles.

  • Bailey Fields


  • bizzy gie

    I’m not grasping at straws.

    That’s like saying I’m nitpicking because you said bird and car mean pretty much the same thing.

    I also didn’t “chase down” your comment.

    It was right above my post and I found it astonishing that you didn’t know Druckmann confirmed the girls were lesbian when his name was mentioned in this very article.

    The only thing I’m trying to explain is that getting a platonic feel from this scene was perfectly understandable even though it was romantic.

  • Teamugs

    You are grasping at straws. The bird/car comparison is bullshit and also irrelevant. The other poster clarified better and you said “how could you not know that” and when I said what you said was not as clearcut, you started nitpicking about the word focus not being the words you used.
    I’m not sure why its astonishing other than you just wanting to be pedantic. I admitted I had not seen the interview. He is mentioned in this post and I know who he is but nothing about his interviews is quoted here. In my mind “Ellie has feelings for Riley” is more clear cut than “he wanted to *focus* on her sexuality”. Yes, they mean the same thing but the first leaves little room for argument.

    Finally, you have the impression that its platonic but now you know you’re wrong and misread it and admitted that. So there’s nothing there to argue either? No one said you can’t have your own impressions but they clearly were not correct.

  • Bailey Fields

    ‘That’s like saying I’m nitpicking because you said bird and car mean pretty much the same thing’

    loool I’m sorry dude, you were veering from side to side, but with that creative flourish you’ve just swung off-road and you’re ploughing through a corn field. “I’m not a homophoooooobe” his diminishing cry carries through the lonely night.

  • CJ Branson

    those aren’t zombies Danny Boyle even said it himself, it’s just a “rage virus” Do you know what a Zombie is?.. It’s the UNDEAD plain and simple. Plus, Naughty Dog even said before the main game was even released “the infected” in the game aren’t damn zombies. So stop calling them something they aren’t.

  • Bailey Fields

    do you know the origin of the word ‘zombie’?

  • bizzy gie

    It’s irrelevant because you say so? Because I think I was spot on.

    I simply stated that Druckmann hinself stated that he was going to cover Ellie’s sexuality meaning tell us whether she is gay, bi, or straight.

    There’s no room for argument or confusion there whatsoever.

    Saying Druckmann wanted to explore her sexuality is completely different meaning he would probably make her have romantic feelings for many boys and girls across DLC and possible future installments of TLOU.

    It’s not grasping at straws to mention the very flagrant differences in the two words you’re trying to relate.

    I also never tried to clarify anything so the other poster couldn’t have done it better as he/she was the only person trying to clarify the story.

    I was simply expressing my first impressions and how it’s understandable that I had them. That’s my argument.

    You probably stopped reading by now because I just stated this for my third time and you still keep bringing up how there is no argument if I knew I was wrong.

    How about not replying anymore (who am I kidding? you can’t help yourself) because you keep repeating yourself causing me repeat myself and it’s a waste of time.

  • bizzy gie

    Alright then Bailey.

    I think that’s enough internet for you for today.

  • Teamugs

    While I have no idea what you’re going on about anymore, if you weren’t clarifying then I have no idea why the hell you bothered to repeat your report of what Druckmann said and thus starting us off on this entire stupid circular conversation. Which, by the way, you also could have stopped replying at the second time you repeated your “argument”, so please don’t act like you’re above this conversation, that’s just too hilarious for anyone to take. I appreciate having something to waste my time on on a slow day!

  • CJ Branson

    it doesn’t pertain to this discussion… if the creators have already said multiple times before, and during the game’s release..that the “infected” are not zombies..then they aren’t zombies. Yes, I do know the origin.. The original zombie was a voodoo slave, or “body guard” brought back from THE DEAD. It’s facts and common just because something is infected with a “virus” doesn’t means it’s a “Zombie”.. bottom line the creatures in this game, 28 days later, etc.. aren’t zombies. The Walking Dead, Night of the living dead, etc.. those are Zombies.. learn the facts, before the word zombie comes out your mouth pertaining to these “infected”.. when it was already said, they weren’t.

  • CJ Branson

    here’s the origin by the way.. like I said.

    In the Vodou religion, zombie (Haitian Creole: zonbi) is an animated corpse raised by magical means. “RAISED” FROM THE DEAD.

  • Bailey Fields

    lol nice after-thought googling there.

    ‘the word’s origin and meaning doesn’t pertain to this discussion! now allow me to get back to telling everyone how this word is allowed to be used according to white nerd dudes!’

  • CJ Branson

    I love proving people wrong about this… it’s so yummy.

  • CJ Branson

    There was no “after thought” -__- I’m right, you’re wrong…and I’m far from a just admit when you’re wrong. here’s some more clarification..that I whipped up for you.

  • Bailey Fields

    you want to beat people over the head with your astounding knowledge of how white nerd manchildren arbitrarily choose to define a term carelessly appropriated from another culture’s religion.

    but no, I admire your selfless efforts to educate the misinformed.