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Teen Wolf Recap: Echo House


The only Teen Wolf episode to get a “viewer discretion is advised” warning at the beginning of it, because there’s some creepy mental institution stuff and also because “Echo House” kind of sucks.

We start off with Stiles voluntarily checking himself into Eichen House, aka the creepy mental institution from a few episodes back. Scott (rightfully) points out that, heyyyy, that’s the place where Barrow was. Clearly it has an aura of weird supernatural shenanigans, so maybe don’t lock yourself up there for 72 hours. Christ. Stiles, Mr. Martyr, argues that he has to stay locked up so when Deaton’s poison wears off and the Nogitsune has its happy homecoming, he won’t be able to hurt his friends. But there has to be a better way. Oh, if only Stiles knew someone in law enforcement who has access to handcuffs and prison cells. It’s not optimal, but neither is trapping yourself in a creepy mental hospital. Stiles, you’re majorly sleep deprived, so I’ll let your poor decision-making slide. Somebody should have managed to convince him that his plan is freaking stupid, though.

Scott, you tried. I can’t stay mad at you.

The Sheriff has second thoughts and frantically tries to get Stiles to come home, arguing that they forgot his pillow, and he can’t sleep without his pillow, so let’s call this (STUPID) plan a wash, huh? Stiles responds that it doesn’t matter, because he hasn’t had a good night’s sleep in weeks anyway.

Oh, OK.

Within minutes of Stiles’ arrival, one of the patients hangs themselves. For all that Eichen House is working overtime to cultivate its creepy atmosphere—Literal cells. No contact with the outside world.—its staff is less careful when it comes to taking care of its patients. Which is the point, I guess. The “creepy asylum” is Teen Wolf‘s horror trope of the week. But it feels cheap to me, because so many things about Eichen House make no damn sense. It’s all style, no substance. Also, unlike, say, a haunted house, mental hospitals actually exist in the real world, and people rely on them. They could have done something a little more inventive than the same old “evil asylum” schtick.

Chris and Derek, locked up in prison, are still trying to figure out how to save Stiles. Chris learns from Deaton that Silverfinger had a special scroll that told him how to fight the Nogitsune. Well, that’s handy! Allison figures out that the scroll must’ve been kept in Silverfinger’s silver finger. Derek’s contribution is to use his superhearing to find out that all of Silverfinger’s stuff, including the finger and the scroll, are being moved to federal lockup.

Heist! Heist! Heist! Lydia plans a heist!

Chris and Derek also have a conversation about Stiles that’s notable for three reasons. One: Chris is prepared to kill the NogitStiles if the Nogitsune pushes Stiles out completely. Two: Derek really doesn’t want to do that. Shippers, eyyyyy. Three: Chris asks Derek if he knows about a type of supernatural creature called a Berserker, and it turns out Derek does, because he’s still a multilingual walking supernatural encyclopedia badass knowledge nerd this season, and I love it.

Back in Eichen House Stiles sees the Nogitsune chilling around and realizes, hey, maybe this was a really stupid plan and I should get out of here. We also meet Oliver, Stiles’ chipper roommate who later gives him the Mean Girls cafeteria speech. Except instead of “Varsity Jocks, Unfriendly Black Hotties, Girls Who Eat Their Feelings, Girls Who Don’t Eat Anything” etc., everyone thinks they’re Jesus.

Also a resident at good ol’ Eichen House is Malia, who we learned last episode is (or may  not be, if Jeff Davis is playing around) Peter’s daughter. The first thing she does is punch Stiles, and that makes a pretty good case for her being a Hale. Apparently she has a pretty strong tendency toward violence. I like her.

Stiles hallucinates the basement of Eichen House but is pulled out of it by Ms. Morrell, who went from French teacher/guidance counselor to psychologist (I guess?) at Eichen House. That’s… convenient. Part of me is peeved at the sloppy storytelling inherent in just plopping Deaton and Morrell into events wherever they need them to be at any given time. Another part of me is just happy to see Morrell and loves the idea that she and her brother know in advance where shit’s gonna go down, and they get jobs there so they can Obi-Wan it up and leave town afterwards.

Morrell pulls Stiles aside and tells him that the weird marks on his body is a Lichtenberg figure, and when it fades the Nogitsune will return. The one thing Stiles absolutely cannot do is sleep, so she gives him some wakey wakey meds. If your friends haven’t figured out how to save you by the time the marks are gone, she warns, no big deal, I’ll just have to kill you.

Let’s take a moment to appreciate all of Teen Wolf‘s wonderful lady characters.

Stiles has a non-punchy interaction with Malia when he accidentally uses the bathroom that she’s using to shower in. But she doesn’t care, because she literally grew up in the forest. As a coyote. Social etiquette isn’t really her thing. Turns out the reason she punched Stiles is that she wants to go back to being a coyote. Stiles says he knows someone—meaning Scott—who can help her figure out how to do that. S&S will help her if she helps him steal the basement key from the head orderly. (Stiles found the door while wandering around the mental hospital in the dead of night, Eichen House, where is your security?!)

After Stiles gets the keys we get a brief interlude of the Hunter Matriarch Lady who wolfnapped Derek and Peter pretending to be Chris’ lawyer so she can talk to him about how he’s not keeping the right Code, yada yada. Lady, did you just talk smack to Chris Argent about his Code?!

She also says she’s “hunting” for something, but doesn’t say what. Which is fine, because I don’t particularly care.

Stiles is caught trying to sneak into the basement by the Head Orderly, who apparently waited for hours after noticing his keys had been stolen just so he could pop out of a dark corner and scare Stiles in an appropriately melodramatic fashion. He fits right in amongst Teen Wolf villains. Evil Head Orderly sedates Stiles, who promptly falls asleep and is visited by the Nogitsune in his dream. He’s rescued by Malia, and they both head to the basement unimpeded.

Then: It’s heist time, frakkers! Kira gets herself in on the adventure after showing Scott that, whaddayaknow, she’s apparently preternaturally talented with a sword. And you know I love my violent ladies, but… Teen Wolf, don’t. Don’t do that. Do you know how uncomfortably close this is to the “all Asians come out of the womb knowing martial arts” stereotype? And this from a show where the major downside of an otherwise excellent half-season has been its reliance on ~Asian people and their yakuza and their kitsunes and their Asian magicks~. And now part and parcel with being a Japanese fox demon is epic sword skillz.

Lydia’s heist plan is ruined when it turns out Kincaid, the werewolf working with Silverfinger, got to the armored van first and stole the scroll. Kira and Allison both try to fight him and get knocked out in short order, and after a few minutes of Scott getting his ass whupped the twins leap down from a balcony and take Kincaid out. What were they doing up there? Checking their email, so they didn’t notice their friends were getting wallopped? Playing parcheesi? Using rock-paper-scissors to determine who’d get to back flip and who had to front flip? I need a fic where Scott pulls them aside to let them know a dramatic entrance has to take a backseat when a bad guy is beating their friends half to death.

In the basement Stiles and Kira look through old files to try and figure out what the connection is between Eichen House and the Nogitsune. But they don’t find anything, so they make out—or possibly have sex–instead. I hope they didn’t have sex, because I doubt there was a condom anywhere in the vicinity.

Stiles engaging in some shirtless horizontal mambo surrounded by piles of research… it’s almost poetic.

Later on they find a secret room where the Nogitsune’s getting in some chill time. Malia pulls something out of its pocket, but before we can find out anything besides the fact that it’s incredibly important, Oliver shows up and tases them both.

Dammit! I liked him!

Earlier on he said he “swallowed a bug,” and now we see that he meant that  literally, and that the bug was a firefly. So he’s Mama Kira’s oni surrogate operating from inside Eichen House? He sedates Malia and proceeds to villain monologue all over Stiles, telling him he’s going to drill a hole in his head to “let the evil spirits out.” Oliver, you stupid soggy biscuit, sedate him, and then drill the hole. He’s stopped by the Nogitsune, who uses mind-whammy. It’s super-effective! The deal is this: If Stiles lets the Nogitsune is, Oliver won’t give Malia’s skull a nice window. I half thought Morrell would bust in to save the day again, because that’s kind of her thing, but nope. Stiles gives the go-ahead and becomes the NogitStiles again. Malia’s head remains undrilled.

Back at the animal hospital Deaton, after saying he doesn’t read Japanese all that well, perfectly translates Silverfinger’s scroll. Turns out it can be expelled by changing the body of the host… like, say, turning it into a werewolf.

Or giving it a tattoo, maybe? Doing some bench presses, building up muscle mass? No?

We end the episode with Malia walking out of Eichen House on her way to find Scott. Because apparently strolling out of a mental institution is something you can do in Beacon Hills. Morrell told Malia she knew where she could find Scott, so it’s possible that she signed some sort of release form, but she’s still a minor, so it can’t be that easy.

Oy. Thinking too much about Teen Wolf makes my head hurt.

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  • Teamugs

    I’m so annoyed because I actually liked the idea of Malia struggling to adapt to human society. Her character was enjoyably aggressive and her actress is cute but now I feel they’ve just jumped the gun way too fast and there’s just no hope for her to have a good role in the series.

  • Suzanne Larsen

    I never really saw it as the “all Asians know martial arts” thing, I thought it was more of a Buffy-esque “vampires know kung fu as part of their demon upgrade” thing.

  • Anonymous

    What the hell was up with that weird closeup of Malia and her smirk as she was leaving? She’s awfully chipper for someone whose friend (I’m assuming Stiles is her friend, since they made out/possibly had sex) is possessed. How did she even get out of the basement? Did NogitStiles let her out and then skedaddle? Did he pretend to not be possessed? What the hell, show? These are thigs that should have been answered.

    So is that closeup supposed to imply that she’s actually self centered and treacherous (taking after her father perhaps?) and is going off to find Scott for villainous reasons?

  • Anonymous

    Well, let’s see. I think the firefly that Oliver swallowed was more a ‘fly’. Think less Oni and more…Barrows. The nogitsune referred to Oliver as his ‘Renfield’, which means Oliver worked for the Nogitsune. Personally, I think Malia might (or at least be collaborating) with the nogitsune too.
    She is the one that knocks Stiles down so he sees the basement. After the therapy session all about guilt, where they all find out how Stiles deals with guilt (by trying to help fix things), then Malia tells Stiles WHY he should feel guilty about her. And she knows about the room AND has an idea how to get in that involves…Oliver. Hence, the seduction, to tie Stiles to her enough to care about her getting her head ventilated to let the Nogitsune take over.
    Oliver tases her, sure, as well as Stiles, but while electricity does have some effect over were..things, it isn’t as much as for humans. If the nogitsune could pull out of the restraints the minute it took over, then Malia shoudl’ve been able to also.

    I think she made a deal WITH the Nogitsune, the whole thing was a setup and poor Oliver was a victim of picking the wrong villain to be a minion for and said villain trading him in for an upgrade. The question to me is…what’s in it for her?

  • Lup Lun

    Personally, I thought this was a pretty good episode, although it had some problems. I’m a bit more forgiving of the plotholes than most. If you think about it, most of the bad decision making this episode takes place in Echo house or from Stiles, and can thus be explained by the Nogitsune playing mind-games with people. Likewise, Kira being a katana prodigy is explicable on the grounds that she’s using a sword which was carried by an Oni which was created from the tail of Kira’s mother, so there might be some magical compatibility there. I was more distracted by the fact that, watching Kira’s demonstration, it’s blatantly obvious that they’re using a stunt double. Watch it again and look at the effort that went into not showing her face.

    Actually, there’s quite a bit of doubling in this series, it’s a big reason most of the fights are shot on dim, darkened sets. I don’t object to this; not every actor is Jean-Claude Van Damme, and they certainly shouldn’t try to be. But it’s one of those things which, once you notice, you can’t STOP noticing.

    There are two things that DID bug me about this episode. First, unless I’m misremembering, Morrell is supposed to be dead. Second, Mallia was wearing earrings the entire episode. Okay, #1: Why is she allowed to keep those in Echo House, and #2: When on earth did she get her ears pierced in the first place, given she’s been a Coyote since the age of 9? Did the park rangers tag her at some point?

  • Anonymous

    For a time, I thought Oliver was the Nogitsune in disguise, and was only on Stiles mind. He just appeared from nowhere and nudged him in the “right direction”, giving him clues about how best proceed. Until the fight with Malia. Then it was just mind-control. Kinda boring. I still don’t get the firefly thing, though. Maybe that was protecting him, and was not mind-controlled until then, and he just popped around giving clues for the lulz? Why the hell would a firefly protect him?
    Also, he said he ate the bug days before. Did the firefly know he would be Stiles roommate? Or maybe it’s just a big coincidence? (Coincidence, in Teen Wolf? I don’t think so. Lazy writing is more probable)

    Should we also forget about the girl who was talking to herself on the phones? Like, was she rambling, o did she really saw something on Stiles? Can the Nogitsune be seen? Stiles, man, you used to question this things…

  • Sherrie Ricketts

    So did anybody else think that Malia’s glowing blue eyes indicate that Malia killed Oliver on her way out?

    The earrings are bugging me, like somebody else mentioned. Druids just popping up when needed? Characters jumping directly to conclusions that are barely even hinted at? Sloppy.

    I’m still enjoying the hell out of the show, but they could definitely have done better in a few areas.

  • Mrimm

    It’s supposed to be that, but piled on with the other Asian stereotypes the show has been heavily leaning on this (half)season, it’s becoming problematic.

  • Mrimm

    I’m pretty sure Ethan and Aiden were in place at the bridge with their bikes, waiting for the trap. When the amoured car didn’t show, they came back to see what’s what in time to kick ass.
    I’m kinda bothered that an alpha wolf, a huntress, and a kitsune couldn’t beat a mere beta wolf without the twins’ help. I hope Kincaide’s point about Scott lacking an alpha’s strength actually comes to mean something instead of being lazy writing.

  • Anonymous

    It wasn’t really my favorite episode and I almost kind of wished they had just taken the chance and just had the whole episode in the asylum. Have that beginning scene with Scott and the Sheriff but then don’t see anyone for the whole episode. The cast probably could have used the brief respite. I almost think it sort of allowed some plot holes to be poked at by doing what they did. Like, should I have really been distracted with where was Scott’s ability to make lower wolves submit. I understand if he hasn’t the strength yet and even that he might need to, well, make a werewolf to achieve that, but he has accessed that particular ability already. I mean, I am a little worried about exactly what Malia’s intentions are toward Scott when she left (I also kind of wondered if Stiles might have been referring to Peter, Scott doesn’t actually know how to fully transform but Peter does and that might have led into what I suspect might be a plan of Peter’s once he discovers Malia – as she can fully transform, maybe he can’t be a super powerful Alpha, but his daughter could be). That was fun with Kira (and a light scene might have been what that was really there for) – I also didn’t assume and Asian assumptions – I sort of thought female protypical weaponry. Allison has the arrow, so a katana is a weapon that distances from direct hand to hand combat. I wouldn’t be surprised to find she and Allison are probably excellent marksmen with guns as well.

  • AStirling

    She might have, but she’d already had blue eyes because of her mom and sister.

  • cheesy

    I am so glad you covered all the stupid shit they did with the Eichen House. I hated pretty much every scene there. I just felt like yelling ‘wrong wrong wrong’ at my television the entire time. This episode was terrible.

    Horrible portrayal of the mental health community: check!
    Stiles and Malia deciding to exchange orgasms right after they realize that Stiles is just about ready to be repossessed and they should probably DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, GODDAMN: check!
    Oh, and Stiles exchanging orgasms with Malia, who has been a coyote since she was eight years old, check!

    I think the last one pisses me off the most. I mean. Girl hasn’t been around people at ALL since she was EIGHT. She hasn’t been to school since second grade. She hasn’t talked to people. Anything. Ugh. The entire scene felt really gross and creepy, to me.

    At least there were the scenes with sweet prince Scott and the triumvirate of awesome that is Lydia, Allison and Kira. (Don’t get me wrong, I agree that the ‘I’m also magically super good at martial arts thing is…in questionable taste). But their scenes were still the only ones I gave half a damn about.

    I am really not hopeful about the last four episodes at this rate.

  • Lup Lun

    I doubt it’s quite so hopeless as you think, but yeah, that’s a recurring problem with Teen Wolf. Between a big cast and short seasons, the writers always have a lot on their plates, meaning that character development gets compressed or cut entirely. We haven’t had a really good character arc since season 2. Either MTV needs to give the writers a full 26-episode season to work with, or the writers need to bite the bullet and start killing off more than bit players.

  • Teamugs

    I feel more like it’s hopeless because in her first episode she had sex with Stiles because… Jeff Davis wanted Stiles to have sex with someone. That random and bizarre plot point is her big intro and I feel like she’ll be tainted in the future. Also if she’s evil she’s going to die because that’s what happens to female big bads on Teen Wolf.

  • Suzanne Larsen

    she might’ve had them pierced before. At my old job I used to pierce ears and the vast majority of them were before the age of 4

  • Lup Lun

    Actually, she had sex with Stiles so as to make it more effective when the Nogitsune threatens to kill her if Stiles doesn’t give in. More evidence that the Nogitsune was trickstering with people this episode. But, judging from that ending, she now has motivation to start kicking ass and saving her friends, so it may still turn out for the best.

  • cheesy

    I feel like, if it had been done right, having her want to have sex asap would have made sense. I mean, she did spend most of her life as a coyote. Attending to basic needs has to be pretty high up there on her priority list. BUT. Having them actually go through with it, while in the middle of Stiles being re-possessed, in a creepy, dark basement, just seemed so messed up an unnecessary. It didn’t feel like something that happened because it made sense for it to happen. You’re right, it felt like it only happened because Jeff Davis wanted Stiles to have sex and this happened to be the fastest way to make that happen.

  • Lup Lun

    Yes, they were visible in her very first episode.

  • Teamugs

    But that’s the thing, they’re not her friends? She doesn’t know them. I just found the entire scene felt there just because Davis wanted it to be there and not because it made sense for the characters or story.

  • Lup Lun

    Eh? 0_o I was under the impression it was illegal to get your ears pierced that young. Or was that just my mother lying to my sister to keep her from getting earrings?

    (Because, if so, it backfired. She got into obscene T-shirts instead…)

  • Lup Lun

    Keep in mind that Scott, despite being an alpha wolf, is not a trained fighter, whereas Kincade is a grown man who has worked as a bodyguard/thug for organized crime for who knows how long.

  • Lup Lun

    Then we disagree, because I thought it made perfect sense on both counts. As Stiles pointed out, that was her first kiss. Think about that for a minute. She’s in her late teens and has spent the entirety of her pubescant and teenage years in a coyote’s body. Now, rather suddenly, she’s a human woman with human hormones yelling half-comprehensible things in her ear. Her presence in the asylum, fists-first approach to human contact, and desire to go back to a feral state are all indicative of trouble dealing with the sudden changes in her life. Stiles is the first guy she’s met with enough insight into her situation to come close to understanding, and now here she is, alone with him, and she feels safe around him, and those hormones are still screaming at her, and she’s probably also curious what exactly they’re on about… under the circumstances, what happens next is obvious. As far as Stiles goes, he’s under extreme stress, is probably going to lose his mind pretty soon, and badly needs to forget about it all for just a few minutes.

    You can argue that it was overly-compressed or sold poorly by the writers, but you can’t make a case for it being untrue to the established characterizations.

  • Teamugs

    Admittedly, you are right I can’t make the case that it’s untrue to Malia’s character but you cannot make the case that it is true to it either. Because we know absolutely diddly squat about Malia other than she wants to go back to being a werecoyote. We don’t know that hormones are rushing through her anymore than they did when she was a coyote. She barely knows Stiles, how did she come to feel safe around him so quickly? Especially because he’s the one who helped returned her to a human body. It’s because she needed to serve the plot.
    As for Stiles, no I disagree that it’s true to his character. Stiles has bigger fish to fry at this moment. He doesn’t ever seem to be someone who wants to forget, he wants to figure things out and solve the problem. I feel like the duress is a reason he wouldn’t have sex with her. Especially considering he’s currently worried about endangering others.
    The scene just didn’t work. It was random, with no build up, and seemingly no meaning at all.

  • Brittany K

    Actually, Motel California also had a warning in front of it.

    I think the whole Kira being crazy skilled with a sword is more of a supernatural beings thing. Kitsune’s seem to be like werewolves in that their reflexes are crazy awesome, I’m sure Scott could probably be that awesome with a sword pretty easily if he wanted to be.

    As for Oliver, he wasn’t working for Kira’s mom, he was working for the nogitsune. The nogitsune got into Oliver’s head and used to him to threaten Malia, which forced Stiles to let the nogitsune in. I loved the Dracula/Renfield reference he made.

    Last night’s episode was a mess and lacked the quality this half of the season has had. Which shouldn’t be surprising, since Jeff Davis wrote that episode. The Stiles/Malia thing was just… Weird. I’m actually not opposed to that pairing, however, I don’t think it would be possible for the timing to be any worse. I’m holding out hope that they didn’t have sex, since 1. They barely know each other, 2. There was no way either of them had a condom, 3. They were in the basement of a One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest esque mental hospital in which they were both patients, and 4. Until very recently, Malia had been a coyote. Teen Wolf has this problem where they go from introducing two characters to each other to BAM relationship, without giving anyone time to actually care about it. They seem to be doing slightly better with Scott/Kira, and I had hope that they had stopped the instalove nonsense, but this Stiles/Malia thing is just weird.

    While still on the subject of Malia… Why exactly was it she was in a mental hospital? I know she made a throwaway line about how “you try to telling your father that your family is dead because you turned into a coyote and tried to eat them,” but she wasn’t saying that in reference to being in the hospital, and the way she said it left it possible to believe that she hadn’t actually told him that, but that she wanted to be a coyote again so she wouldn’t have to be. But let’s say that’s why she was in the hospital… Why was she released at the end of the episode? It would’ve been nice to have clear answers to these questions. But clear answers are a concept that’s obviously beyond Jeff Davis.

  • Suzanne Larsen

    it may vary by state, I’m not sure. but in CA there’s no minimum age. I pierced as old as 85 and as young as 2 weeks (which was obscenely far too young but I was told by my manager that I couldn’t say no). But most of the piercings were infant-toddler.

  • AStirling

    I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one fixated on the lack of a condom. The cast is already too giant to risk having werebabies running around.

  • Brittany K

    It was unclear whether or not Morrell had survived.

  • Brittany K

    The most annoying thing about it was that we’ve seen Stiles worry about protection before. In 3A when he almost has sex with Heather, she’s killed while he’s going to get a condom. So we know Stiles isn’t just stupid about protection. I’m hoping that they just didn’t have sex because that would be an absolutely horrible way to lose your virginity.

  • Lup Lun

    You know, with a little creativity, it’s perfectly possible to have safe sex without a condom. My SO and I can do it without even taking our pants off, although she needs to be wearing loose pants. Otherwise it starts to hurt my wrist after a minute or so…

  • Lup Lun

    If that’s the issue, then the problem is, again, short seasons and large casts meaning that this all has to be crammed in, not any kind of deficiencies in the treatment of the characters involved.

    Oh, let’s just address the elephant in the room directly, shall we? There is no way to turn this into a crime against female representation in media, because Malia behaved like, and was treated as, a human being. There was nothing in that episode that made Malia a sex object rather than a person. Everything she did, and everything Stiles did too, is perfectly likely behavior for a person in the given situation. This doesn’t necessarily mean it was a good idea on their part, but it doesn’t have to be. So long as the writers’ efforts are consistent with reality and the character’s motivations make sense, they’ve done their job, and for the most part, the writers have done their job here.

  • Teamugs

    That is poor writing though. Other shows are able to manage large casts and develop them.

    And ummm, no that’s not really an elephant in the room because it has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. It has nothing to do with female sexuality and everything to do with the scene being poorly built up, poorly integrated, happening under dubious circumstances, and ultimately serving very little purpose.

    You seem really desperate to defend this episode and the writers of the show. You can think of it however you want but I, and many other people, felt it was poorly done and you’re not going to change my mind.

  • amarie

    OMG! I agree with you so much on the Stiles Malia moment.(and everything else) Like why was that even necessary? How do you manage to ignore how Malia is mentally 8/9 no matter how well she speaks and Stiles is also very far away from a mental place for him being able to give consent?! That was just terrible!
    I was kinda bummed that we couldn’t watch Lydia’s plan unfold which I’m sure would have gone perfectly.
    Also why doesn’t Scott have Alpha strenght? Is it still about the sacrifices?

  • Brittany K

    yoo, tmi.

  • delia

    the fireflies aren’t necessarily good. didn’t they also fly out of Barrow’s wounds? or were those regular flies?

  • Anonymous

    Regular flies, I think, but it would be nice to know why the hell he had those bugs inside, too. I mean, even “evil curse” would be a better explanation, instead of “yeah, that happened. Huh”.

  • Anonymous

    WHOA. Yeah, this one was a bit scattered. Excellent use of that Hellboy gif, by the way. Just say no to Asian stereotypes!

    The thing is, I think it’s really cool for them to delve into monster legends from other countries and cultures. Unfortunately, the utilization thereof has been Less Than Graceful. Other shows have done it worse, but they’ve also done it better. Be more awesome, guys! We know you can!

    Plus, yeah. Way to stigmatize mental health issues EVEN MORE, people. The admittedly relatively PG-13 sex and violence doesn’t get a viewer discretion warning, but the mental health stuff does? Oy vey.

    Also, teenage soap and all, Dylan O-Brian’s adorable, we got it, sure, but was that REALLY the time for horizontal mambo? All I could think during that scene was “where did this come from? Are we really doing this? Really, guys? Really?”

    I am also confused about Malia. Am I supposed to be? Was she turned into a were-coyote that night, or was she already? How does one become a were-coyote anyway, since other ones don’t seem to be around? Is that hunter lady maybe a were-coyote who’s hunting werewolves? I HAVE NO IDEA.

    ANYWAY. Hopefully this was the transition to better stuff in the coming episodes. I did love the whole heist-planning scene.

  • Anonymous

    Yep, noping forever on the Stiles/Malia scene. I know they’re horny teenagers, but we need to set up some emotional connection here, people.

    TRIUMVIRATE OF AWESOME, heeeee. So true. Scott really is a prince, huh. Aside from understandable spurts of jealousy, he lets Allison get on with her life, and doesn’t want to kill people. Hopefully we never have to see him dramatically get demoted to a blue-eyed(!) beta.

  • MNix

    OMG! A pair of teenagers made an impulsive and irresponsible decision to have sex! The horror! THE HORROR, I SAY! Quick, somebody call Planned Parenthood! Summon the Moral Majority! What the hell kind of characterization is it for TWO TEENAGERS TO HAVE IRRESPONSIBLE SEX?! Especially when they’re in an emotionally-fraught situation! WHERE DO THEY GET THIS STUFF!!!11!!1! On MTV, no less…

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, did they actually tell her about the nogitsune? I thought she was totally out of the loop. She hasn’t had contact with anyone in the group since they transformed her. Unless this was part of the off-screen pillow talk *shudder*.

  • Xae

    I’m glad somebody said it. The actors may be grown, but the characters are not. If they did have sex, I think it was spot on given the emotions both characters were running on.

  • Troy Lenze

    While the scary mental asylum has been done to death, and this one was completely unrealistic, I did enjoy the creepy atmosphere they created. It was a good move back to the first season with Scott being stalked through the school by the big bad alpha. I like when the show goes more horror and a little less teen drama.

    Kira finding out she’s good with a sword read far more like SupernaturalCreaturesFightGood rather than HeyI’mAsianAndCanThereforeUseAKatana. (As others below have said.)

    As soon as Oliver said he swallowed a bug, I knew the Nogitsune had some kind of hold over him. I thought he might be a mental image of Stiles’ until Morrell addressed him directly. (And how did I not figure out until last night that Morrell is Kendra from Buffy?!?!) I liked the Dracula/Renfield reference. I kind of wish Stiles had salted and burned the body as a nod to Supernatural.

    As someone who has kissed girls he didn’t even like that much because he was a horny teenager, I can understand Stiles and Malia getting it on (if they did.) Was it a good idea? No. But teenagers are not known for making good choices when it comes to their hormones. Hopefully if they did, there are some kind of negative consequences.

    I liked this episode more than a lot of people, apparently, and that was due mainly to the creepiness of the asylum. Hopefully Teen Wolf can keep up the atmosphere.

  • BatiHoney

    I 100% agree with you. I can’t believe they actually went and made Stiles and Malia have sex THERE AND IN THAT SITUATION??? And Malia just does not act like a girl who has been a coyote since 8 (I guess they had to do that so the scene wouldn’t be so awful. It was still downright awful). I can’t feel horny when I’m stressed out, so HOW CAN STILES BE IN HIS SITUATION???

    Besides, if they wanted them to bond to idk make a bigger impact on the “LET ME IN OR MALIA DIES” thing, they could have done with FRIENDSHIP. But apparently Stiles is now TW’s hottie and he’s kissing everyone even though he has feelings for Lydia?? or maybe he doesn’t anymore?? I’m not sure, but this is hurting me. I’m not saying Stiles can’t have fun and experiment but… in a mental asylum (nice way of perpetuating the bad image mental asylums and people with mental diseases have, Teen Wolf. Nice. Ugh) and during what he’s going through?? Just… no. TW, I love you, but no…

  • BatiHoney

    I’m not from the U.S. but my ears were pierced just right after I was born, or so I’m told. So yeahhhhhh… probably some states allow that.

  • BatiHoney

    Quoting TW’s tumblr, the viewer discretion was because of “some potentially triggering content such as suicide, abuse, self-medication and mental health; just to name a few”. I mean, it seems fair. The way they’re portrating the mental health stuff could be triggering for some people, or just in general for people who have been there. They PG-13 sex and violance apparently is a given in MTV? I’m assuming, I don’t really watch MTV anymore….

    My reaction to the possibly sex scene between Stiles and Malia was the same. Way to ruin the whole atmosphere they had set up… so out of place.

  • Kagi Soracia

    I got the impression she had checked herself in, in which case she could presumably check herself out, too.