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Rapunzel’s Looking Good In This First Pic From Once Upon a Time


When Rapunzel, played by Alexandra Metz, comes to the Onceverse next month, she won’t be the happy-go-lucky frying pan wielder Tangled gave us: “We went a little darker and freakier,” says Executive Producer Edward Kitsis. ”A little more horror story in the vein of The Grudge.” That’s… an odd association to make. Further, she’ll be visited in her tower by a “hooded menace” who may or may not be new villain The Wicked Witch of the West, but will probably be related to Henry, because who isn’t on this show?

(TV Guide via io9)

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  • Anonymous

    I wonder if the long hair is going to be a curse a la The Thirteenth Kingdom?

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    ”A little more horror story in the vein of The Grudge.” So, like with the Peter Pan story, “We read some of Willingham’s Fables and ripped off some of his ideas.” Kudos.

  • http://www.jessicasadoway.com/ Jessica Sadoway

    Ooh, I need to go back and re-watch that. It’s been too long. :)

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, because these ideas only appeared with Fables.

  • Anonymous

    How long before she’s killed off/turned evil?

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Ohhh, so you know of an earlier ongoing saga about fairytale characters living in an urban environment that, in one draft, had to deal with the child-stealing Peter Pan (while teamed up with Cap. Hook, natch), and as recently as last year revealed Rapunzel’s backstory to be heavily concerned with Eastern ghosts, implying somewhat that the modern description of a “Grudge” style spirit may have been based on Razpunzel? Because, ok, I’m willing to accept and believe that it’s all been done in much the same way before and that Disney couldn’t possibly pretend that they came up with the idea wholesale in vacuum somewhere, anyway, even if they didn’t source Fables first. I’m satisfied with that resolution too.

  • Anonymous

    Well, we can start with The Charmings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Charmings). As for a child-stealing Peter Pan, that’s kind of the premise of the original story.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    The Charmings definitely looks like it was influential on Fables, at least, but I can’t agree with you about Peter Pan. The original intention was just a tale for children about a fun place full of adventure, Hook was just a pirate, and Peter was just a lonely sprite looking for friends, with no ill intentions (at least, directed toward the Darlings. Your interpretation is from college essays the world over. It’s a very modern spin. And the timing of the Once Upon a Time television show and the original pitch for the Fables TV show is too close to ignore. Disney saw an opportunity, took it, and they’ve been taking ever since. Nothing new, really.

  • Marco Segovia

    I’m all for diversity, but when it is justified!, I mean, respect the source material!. If this keeps up, then I demand a new version of roots starring Brad Pitt.

  • Rebecca Pahle

    Unlike Kunta Kinte, there’s nothing about Rapunzel that says she has to be a particular race (ie white).

  • Anonymous

    “Your name is Toby!”
    “You know, it just might be.”

  • Tallulah Alice Mae

    lol yes because every other character is white so far because it’s so important to them they stick to the source material as much as possible

  • Marco Segovia

    Rapunzel, if you go by the original story, is European, German to be precise, and it clearly states she has golden hair (Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair, so that I may climb the GOLDEN stair). If you base it on the Disney movie it gets even worse. I do not oppose any actor playing any part, regardless of race, but in this they stray.

  • Joseph Roy Fishbeck

    It’s worth noting that there were lots of black and brown people in Europe throughout history, and that black people with blond hair also exist. The blog http://medievalpoc.tumblr.com discusses this.

  • Ashe

    Blonde hair is a genetic mutation, not an exclusive backdoor wine club for white people. Which means people of all shades can and DO have it.

    Oh, and people change fairytales all the time. Frozen is the most expensive and current example.

    Try harder.

  • Marco Segovia

    People, you’re reacting as if I were questioning on the basis of race, and I am not. I do not need to “try harder” because I’ve already made my point and it still stands, despite your misguided zeal. I objected the casting choice because it alters an already established story, nothing more. My congratulations to miss Metz, I am sure she will be a fine character, but Rapunzel she is not.

  • LifeLessons

    Yay! I like how Once Upon A Time is not afraid to us PoC. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEED MORE DIVERSITY IN MY ENTERTAINMENT!

  • LifeLessons

    Yay! I like how Once Upon A Time is not afraid to us PoC. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEED MORE DIVERSITY IN MY ENTERTAINMENT!

  • Axe Armor

    It’s not really super important for Rapunzel’s hair to be blonde though, is it? I mean, as long as no one actually says “that I may climb the golden stair”, it could be any color.

  • Anonymous

    Wow – I’ve never met a fairy tale purist before. Is this really worth getting upset over? It’s a kind of dumb TV show based on a childish story. Since you’re such a stickler for accuracy, I assume that you’re also upset that they cast a South Asian as an Arab in OUATIW?

  • Anonymous

    I’m gonna sadly say pretty fast considering the other PoC on the show :(

  • MegN

    Presumably you’ll also be annoyed if she doesn’t get knocked up with twins as well? I mean, have to stick to the source material and all…

  • Marco Segovia

    Once upon a time is not the original story, so they can do as they see fit. I am not annoyed, but you seem to think that I am not entitled to my opinion. From the first comment from the administrator and down to yours all of you are either making fun of my opinion or seem to be offended by it, and none has cared to truly explore or discuss my point of view. Why?

  • MegN

    Because the argument you use is old and tired and unsound.
    Either you mind that she’s a POC because only Caucasians populated Germany when the Grimms wrote their books. However, I’m pretty sure there weren’t actually princesses conceived using magical lettuce, and then locked up in towers so tall that the only way to get to them was by climbing their unnaturally long hair during that time period either. (To say nothing of the fact that there were Plenty of POC in Europe, someone already linked to Medieval POC, it’s a great website)
    Or you mind that she’s not blonde because in the “source material” they mention her golden hair. But then you should also be demanding that she get pregnant with twins be cast out of her tower while the prince in blinded by being thrown out the window into a flower bush only to find her after years of searching (During which he refuses to eat or drink).

    You’re the one who said they should respect the source material. But there’s no true source material, even the Grimms changed the stories several times from edition to edition.
    These stories are meant to be changed with time. No two storytellers tell them the same, and I bet if you really studied AT 310 (The classification Rapunzel falls under in Folklore) you could find a story that you would find more likely to be a woman of colour. Off the top of my head I think there’s a version from the Philippines. I’m not sure if that one involves long hair though.

    So I’m not sure what exploration or discussion you want. Do you want to talk about AT 310? Or the whitewashing that’s happened to historical Europe? How the Grimm’s are assumed to be the be all end all of Fairy Tales even though their books on Fairy Tales were really just a side project they did to study the peasants of the Germany whom they kinda thought were beneath them (And then how they changed the stories to be more kid friendly after they realized there was a market for that)?

  • MegN

    There’s also plenty to be said for the Disney-fication of fairytales and how white they all are and how people always claim that it’s for the “Historical accuracy” despite the fact that so many of the them are about magical beings. Dwarfs, dragons, sorceresses and wizards are all cool, but POC are just too inaccurate.
    I think the problem you’re running into though, is that the above have all been discussed to death on the internet. People are tired of fighting “It’s historically inaccurate!” & “Respect the source material!”. All we have left are eye rolls and laughter otherwise we’d go mad. How many times can we have the conversation before we accept we’re just banging our heads against a wall?
    So it may have just been an offhanded comment for you. But for many of us it was just the most recent comment in a long line of ignorance and annoyance.