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Breaking: Jesse Eisenberg and Jeremy Irons Are Lex Luthor and Alfred, Respectively, In Man of Steel 2


Pick your jaw up off the floor. You ready? Let’s go.

When Bryan Cranston shot down the rumors that he’d be Lex Luthor in Zack Snyder‘s Man of Steel sequel, never in a million years did we think a few weeks later we’d heard that Jesse Eisenberg had gotten the role. But it’s so. Says Snyder:

“Lex Luthor is often considered the most notorious of Superman’s rivals, his unsavory reputation preceding him since 1940. What’s great about Lex is that he exists beyond the confines of the stereotypical nefarious villain. He’s a complicated and sophisticated character whose intellect, wealth and prominence position him as one of the few mortals able to challenge the incredible might of Superman. Having Jesse in the role allows us to explore that interesting dynamic, and also take the character in some new and unexpected directions.”

And the role of Alfred has gone to Profion from Dungeons & Dragon Jeremy Irons. Zach, explain this one:

“As everyone knows, Alfred is Bruce Wayne’s most trusted friend, ally and mentor, a noble guardian and father figure. He is an absolutely critical element in the intricate infrastructure that allows Bruce Wayne to transform himself into Batman. It is an honor to have such an amazingly seasoned and gifted actor as Jeremy taking on the important role of the man who mentors and guides the guarded and nearly impervious façade that encapsulates Bruce Wayne.”

I’m a bit iffy on that last one, if only because Alfred’s generally a pretty unassuming character, and I can’t think of a Jeremy Irons performance where there isn’t some level of scenery-chewing involved. And “scenery-chewing” and “Alfred Pennyworth” just don’t go together. But. He is a good actor. And for all that the majority of people who saw Man of Steel, myself included, weren’t exactly wowed by it, one problem that it absolutely didn’t have was casting. Amy Adams! Henry Cavill! Kevin Costner! Excellent decisions all around.

And Eisenberg… I may be in the minority here, but I’m cautiously optimistic. As soon as this news hit my brain went “MARK ZUCKERBERG AS LEX LUTHOR??!?!” (And yeah, that’s only one character Eisenberg played, but he tends to do variations on that same bitter-narcissistic-nerd-with-limited-social-skills type). It’s weird, and I love weird casting decisions (love love love them), so I’m intrigued. Yeah, he’s younger than your typical Lex, but one of the biggest problems I personally had with Man of Steel is that I thought it was pretty dull, so if Snyder wants to mix the sequel up a bit, I’m all for that.

But I don’t read comics, so I have no investment in any particular interpretation of Lex’s character. My angle is that I want to see interesting movies, and I know a lot of you are coming at it from a comics perspective. So hash it out in the comments, if you wish. Do you like the actors but are concerned about the characters they’re playing? Do you like the casting but don’t care because you’ve resigned yourself to the fact that you probably won’t like Man of Steel 2, whatever it ends up being called? Or did you like Man of Steel, and you’re excited by the news (except maybe Jeremy Irons as Lex might’ve been nice)? Do you not care and wish they’d announce a Wonder Woman standalone already?

Annnd…. BEGIN.

(via: /Film)

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  • http://runt.org/ Adrian

    This just says that Snyder and co. are interpreting Lex Luthor, the greatest criminal mind of our time, as an over-ambitious internet entrepreneur ala the Social Network. Zuckerberg gone baaad. What if Steve Jobs… was evil?? I don’t like it… but, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Right? :(

    I do however like Jeremy Irons as Alfred. I always thought he was too often depicted as frail and helpless, and not capable retired spy that he actually is!

  • Alana Beltzer

    Mark Zuckerberg as Lex Luthor is exactly where my mind went with this, too! That works for me :) Not so sure on Irons as Alfred but, who knows?

  • Bam Bunting

    We are but hours away from people photoshopping Scar from Lion King saying Alfred quotes. Tis a fine time to be alive on the internet.

  • Anonymous

    Alright well I am surely not gonna watch this one. I just can’t picture it yet…

  • Cellism

    Eisenberg may be young but has the kind of cold unassuming logic that’ll really humanise Luthor as not just another villains. Jeremy Irons argued that legalising gay marriage would lead to incest to avoid inheritance tax so he can swivel.

  • Joie Young

    This is exactly what I was thinking. Scar is Alfred. My life is complete.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    I will can’t believe Eisenberg and Cavill are the SAME AGE. Gonna have a hard time taking him seriously.

  • TheChief

    I wonder if they are going for a nerdier version of the Smallville Lex.

  • Giu

    If Ben Affleck is playing Older!Batman, why his Alfred is Younger!Alfred than Christian Bale Younger!Batman’s? #confused

  • http://annescherbina.tumblr.com/ Annearchist

    I absolutely buy Eisenberg as Lex. http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2854/89092791.jpg

  • Elias Algorithm

    Irons. Couldn’t get Rickman, huh? I’m sorry this just seems ridiculously on the nose to me.

  • MeatyStakes

    I… I really can’t see Eisenberg as Luthor… mostly cause I’m dreading they are going to make some sort of Luthor/Zuckerberg mashup of a character

  • blu girl

    I like both choices but yeah, I don’t care and wish they’d announce a Wonder Woman standalone already….

  • Rick Bman

    Making Luthor a Mark Zuckerberg type character kind of makes sense… but casting the same person that played Mark Zuckerberg?

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Exactly!

  • http://skemono.blogspot.com/ Skemono

    Luthor is a redhead! Foul!

  • Rick Bman

    I was pulling to Timothy Dalton. Alan Rickman could have been amazing though.

  • Mark Matson

    Affleck is 41, Irons is 65. Hmm, 24 at Bruce Wayne’s birth. That does seem a bit young. Of course, he can play older.

  • Adrian

    It’s not the same continuity.

  • Rick Bman

    I am guessing that even though Irons is 65, his Alfred will probably be older.

  • Rose Tyler

    Look, you stole my comment. ;-) THIS. This EXACTLY.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Damn you for pirating my brain waves!

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    Cavill is 15!?

  • Anonymous

    I just realized that any casting Zach Snyder announces looks bad because it’s Zach Snyder who announces it. Contrary to others, I have seen Jeremy Irons in roles that he didn’t chew the scenery and he’s smart enough to know when to tone it down. As for Eisenberg, he’s known to play smart and neurotic and even though he’s younger than he should for the part, that is an interesting direction to take the character.

    Still, the same main concern we had when we learned about Affleck and Gadot remains here: it’s still a Zach Snyder film. And it’s getting crowded.

  • http://thescienceofobsession.tumblr.com/ R.O.U.S.

    Sadly, it would be the obvious choice to both 1. get him his fortune and 2. make us hate him.

  • http://thescienceofobsession.tumblr.com/ R.O.U.S.

    Not expecting a lot based on the first one – but I’ll throw $10 at it to see what happens.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    somehow I have an easy time imagining this particular Alfred being the perfect sort to support a cynical borderline villainous take on Batman.

  • Anonymous

    Eisenberg: Strange, but obviously they are going the “Q” (from the last Bond movie) route and make him a computer genius nerd jerk. Strange…

    Irons: Usually would cast him as grizzled old warrior (Eragon) or villain but as he played some kind of mentor in that witch movie last year… heck, what do I know? I always would cast him as a villain!

  • Important Film Maker

    Loved him in Arrested Development, but not sure about this casting.

  • Anonymous

    How does he look without hairs?

  • Mina

    I find Eisenberg’s casting surprising and I’m having trouble really imagining it, but I won’t knock it until I’ve seen it.

  • http://elisabethflaum.wordpress.com/ Elwyne

    Were you being facetious, because I thought casting Kevin Costner was a terrible idea. Of course I also thought that of Russell Crowe and he turned out to be pretty entertaining.

    And I suppose I can’t blame *everything* on Costner – the writers obviously had some say in the worst interpretation of Jonathan Kent ever.

  • Cad Wallader

    From what I’ve seen, people who despised Affleck as Batman are thrilled with Eisenberg as Luthor, so I don’t even know anymore. My one hope is if this move can’t be good, then I hope it is WILDLY AWFUL. If I’m paying to see it no matter what (and I am), I want to be entertained. Eisenberg as Luthor (like Affleck as Batman) promises to be either brilliant or a train wreck, so whatever, bring it on.

  • Chris Macpherson

    Wow, this is certainly surprising news. Alfred is gonna be one scary dude now. Actually Irons I’m sure will be great…..just really surprised by Eisenberg, hopefully this isn’t a disaster.

  • Haleigh Yonish
  • Rebecca Pahle

    “My one hope is if this move can’t be good, then I hope it is WILDLY AWFUL.”

    Seconded. I’d rather a Spider-Man 3 than a Man of Steel.

  • Anonymous

    I misread the headline at first and thought, “Mark Zuckerberg as Alfred? WHAT?! WHY?!” but thought Irons as Luthor would be deeeeelightfully evil.

    No. I was mistaken on all fronts, and am sad (although less confused).

  • Amourah

    Yay Irons, boo Jesse!

    or I’m already not invested bc of Batfleck so I don’t really care that much. whatever happens happens. My Batman still and will always be Kevin Conroy and TAS. Everything else is *shrug*

  • http://pontoonification.blogspot.com/ AverageDrafter

    I would say this is genus – using an actors most famous role to help establish the character on an almost subliminal level.

    But then that’s what I thought about Costner, and the terrible script made him more Mr. Brooks than Ray Kinsella.

  • locuas

    to be fair, Alfred has been mentioned to have been a shakesperian actor on his past in a few continuities, so i can see him a bit hammy.
    Also, Jeremy Iros would give life to a movie after Man of Steel’s wooden as death acting.

  • Steven McDade

    Luthor with hair, not a wig, good choice, not sure though about a younger Lex. Will have to see. Irons, GREAT choice for Alfred. Offset the Batfleck.

  • locuas

    people can say whatever they want about Smallville, i am glad they actually bothered to make Lex bold.

  • Cad Wallader

    Just James Franco eating pie with a grin on his face while dance numbers abound. YES.

  • Anonymous

    Can Alfred have his moustache this time?

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    I would like to see the test footage of Eisenberg screaming “Miss Tessmacher!”

  • WonderScott

    I can see Eisenberg as Lex. He’ll be good at switching between the two faces of Luthor’s persona: the American Dream/human champion of Metropolis and the intelligent, Machiavellian, ego-driven technologist tycoon.

    Smart move to make him around the same age as Superman and Lois Lane. That they’re all peers and at the time of life their in makes for a good balance. It also positions him to be an upstart to Bruce Wayne should there be some LexCorp and WayneTech rivalry – which I’m predicting. (I mean somebody has to deliver Kryptonian-level threat technology to protect humans. Especially if more and more threats or perceived threats start popping up, right?)

    Irons is a no-brainer. I can completely see him delivering a some very dry humor as Alfred.

    Now Warner Bros., just confirm the casting for my pick as Steve Trevor and I’m ready to go.

  • Rick Bman

    His reasoning behind why it wasn’t technically incest was amazing. This man is nuts.

  • WonderScott

    Yesssssss!

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    You undershot. I saw it 20 minutes ago.

  • Elias Algorithm

    Dalton will always be Neville Sinclair to me. And Simon Skinner. And Rassilon. I tried to watch The Living Daylights the other day and couldn’t get into it. Post-Bond Dalton is more fun.

  • Alan Kistler

    Agreed. I didn’t find Cranston an interesting casting choice because I figured “I’ve already seen him be a well-intentioned super-villain.” Casting Eisenberg is telling me “It’s Zuckerberg but more evil!” That’s… not interesting to me at all. That sounds like a parody. This casting is undoing the slight interest I got at the thought of finally seeing any kind of Wonder Woman in live-action. And while he’s a good actor, it’s hard for me to enjoy Jeremy Irons in any role now when he was equating gay marriage to incest in recent interviews.

  • Skol Troll

    *Could* make sense. Go from being a special forces guy (allegedly ;-) straight to the calm life as a butler who can preform triage for his Doctor client. Maybe missing a year or three, but it’s more likely to happen than say… and alien who gets his powers from the yellow sun. ;-)

  • Skol Troll

    This is defintely looking more like a WB/Snyder combo swinging for the fences with the bases loaded down 4 in the 9th. (Sorry, I’m a sports nut, too.) Either they will connect and pull a into a glorious late-game tie with Marvel, or they’ll whiff mightily and we can all shake our heads and hope for “next year.”

    Again, apologies for the sports metaphors for those so un-inclined.

  • Haleigh Yonish

    I posted this wayyy late to the game at the very bottom of the thread, but:

    http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/jeremy_irons_is_officially_the_worst/

    Sums up how terrible of a person he is pretty concisely, to go off of what you’re saying.

  • http://www.aeryllou.tumblr.com/ Aeryl

    Watching that the other day, it’s kinda amazing how ahead of it’s time The Rocketeer was. It fits in real well with our modern crop of comic book movies. (Being directed by the guy that gave us CA:1st Avengers doesn’t hurt)

  • marcus.banksblogger

    As an active comic connoisseur, Jesse Hisenberg as Lex Luthor is not a good look. Lex was a muscular guy with a bald head and a mean look across his face. Now think of Hisenberg playing the part…….OK now you see how this can be weird! I do believe in Zach Snyder’s ability to create a good story so I will just sit back and watch him do some “300″ magic on the screen.

  • Anonymous

    So much ditto. I imagine I will see this eventually on the small screen, on a plane or stuck in a hotel or something. But meanwhile I will be rewatching some good ol’ WB/CW animated.

  • Anonymous

    Most importantly, Luthor, in recent incarnations, has been charismatic and persuasive, using his intelligence and understanding of human psychology to maneuver his way to what he wants. Heisenberg seems to do brilliant-but-left-out-because-he-doesn’t-fit-in; Luthor gets people to fit in with him.

  • Andrew Favata

    Interesting casting choice

  • Mark Matson

    It wasn’t Costner’s fault father Kent told Clark it was perfectly reasonable to let people die to protect his identity.

  • Mark Matson

    I was going to go with Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, but yeah.

  • Rebecca Pahle

    I legitimately think Costner was a great choice. He just had shit to work with.

  • Mark Matson

    I don’t have a problem with young. The best on-screen Lex was from Smallville, after all.

  • http://www.gradientcomics.com/ Rob Payne

    I had my fingers crossed for David Thewlis.

  • J Ritchey

    Well, the most important narrative function of Alfred is to snark on Batman. We know at the very least that Irons should prove brilliant at that part.

  • http://www.gradientcomics.com/ Rob Payne

    It makes sense why there were rumors of Joaquin Phoenix for Luthor now, and it’s a shame they didn’t go that route or he couldn’t make it happen with his schedule (he was quoted as saying he’d be interested in a big action blockbuster). They could’ve used the same Eisenbergian characterization without the retread.

  • http://www.gradientcomics.com/ Rob Payne

    That could’ve been an interesting take on the character… if Clark had completely rejected the sentiment and outed himself ala Tony Stark in the first Iron Man.

  • Kryptoknight

    I wouldn’t necessarily call Lex a “well-intentioned super-villain.” He likes to try and say that he’s there for humanity and that he could do all these great things in the comics if not for Superman, but in the end he is alllll about the self interest. He is cold, cruel, sociopathic, and craves acclaim for his genius. Even on the rare occasion he does something good, it’s not for the sake of doing good or helping others but rather because it somehow furthers his own goals or discredits an enemy.
    That is what Lex Luthor is to me. I don’t think Eisenburg has the chops to pull off that kind of role.

  • http://www.gradientcomics.com/ Rob Payne

    Hence my desire to see David Thewlis in the role. Dude can rock a moustache like nobody else.

  • http://www.gradientcomics.com/ Rob Payne

    No Heisenberg was charismatic and persuasive, and he did use his intelligence and understanding of human psychology to maneuever his way to what he wanted… for a while. Jesse Eisenberg is just an actor who specializes in portraying egomaniacal buttholes.

  • Wraith Ideal

    I’m for this casting, he’s looks a little young, but take off his hair and he looks that the Lex Luthor from the Injustice video game. However, I do not think they should make him a Mark Zuckerberg type. Lex can scrap and he is not a nerdy/dorky type dude. He is supposed to be smart as well as threatening (socially and physically).

  • Anonymous

    Bwah! Completely unconscious substitution…apparently I was uncertain on the spelling. Corrected, and edit noted (on principle).

  • Duke Red

    This casting is so random but i’m kind of looking forward to it. I prefer that they take risks in casting instead of going for obvious choices. As much as i like Bryan Cranston and Mark Strong, this casting is a little more interesting.

  • Elias Algorithm

    I would actually break my own arm to see him as Jason Blood.

  • Anonymous

    Arrested Development was Michael Cera, the same guy from Juno. But Jesse Eisenberg has kind of swooped in and taken all of the roles that would have suited Cera well.

  • Wraith Ideal

    Who cares what any actor says outside of their movies? I’m sure that many people are against some of Affleck’s politics. But it doesn’t matter, they are actors who are pretending to be someone else. That’s what they do, like children they pretend for a living. So when you’re watching the movie, you are not watching them, you are watching the character they’re playing. Affleck won’t be Ben Affleck in the movie, he will be Bruce Wayne/Batman. Irons won’t be Irons in the movie, he will be Alfred. I might agree with Ian McKellen’s lifestyle or view, however; I still watched Lord of The Rings … because its not Ian, its Gandalf. People need to get over themselves and understand that people have their own minds and opinions.

  • frodobatmanvader

    It was a joke. Y’know, the punchline being “Yet again, someone confuses the two for each other”?

  • Elias Algorithm

    Kids these days.

  • Anonymous

    Woops. That one went definitely over my head for a minute. I was sitting here thinking “Do these people not understand how to use the internet?”

  • Anonymous

    It is absolutely essential that Jesse Eisenberg shave his head for the role. [angrily side-eyes James MacAvoy with hippie hair as Professor X]

  • Anonymous

    Sooo…maybe Whoopi Goldburg will be Lucius Fox instead of Morgan Freeman?

    Be prepared….

  • Anonymous

    Be prepared….

  • http://whiterosebrian.tumblr.com/ White Rose Brian

    The casting does seem to be weird overall, but again, I’ll just wait and see.

  • Mark Brown

    Not a fan of the first one, and (Wonder Woman aside), can’t bring myself to get excited about this.

    (One of my goals as a screenwriter is to do my own Superman movie, though, so I’m a bit biased.)

  • Alexa

    Don’t really care, it could be good, but it also could be bad like MoS unfortunaelty turned out to be IMO. Really if they just get a different director, then I’d probably give a damn. But really I wish all the actor’s luck, especially Affleck and Eisenberg, but beyond this I seriously could care less.

  • DemonicPIty

    Hasn’t that interpretation of Lex Luthor been done before, aka Smallville? I think Zack Snyder wants to make Jesse a poor man’s Michael Rosenbaum. You know… a young, misunderstood, good intentioned, megalomaniacal weird kid; who isn’t completely evil but make all the wrong decisions. I’ve already seen that show… all ten (agonizing) seasons… even after they jumped the shark following season three.

    Sorry, but this info still doesn’t sway me to see the Man of Steel sequel. Hell, I couldn’t even watch the first one. Pass!

  • Ivan

    This movie isn’t anywhere close to being crowded. Go take a look at the xmen days of future past cast, it’s enormous. also the avengers age of ultron is shaping up to be extremely crowded.

  • Ivan

    Lex Luther doesn’t need to be built or big and strong because no matter how big he is he’s not gonna fight superman, period. What matters is his genius intellect.

  • DemonicPIty

    See, I thought Jesse Eisenberg was younger than Henry Cavill too, but I looked it up and they are the same age (both born in 1983). I think it would have been pretty interesting to have a younger Lex since he’s always older or the same age as Clark.

  • Ivan

    That won’t be a problem, they can make irons as old as they want to before filming, piece of cake.

  • Anonymous

    Lex is a villain who is rich and owns an empire

    so they turned him into Mark Zuckerberg

  • Anonymous

    It’s not because other movies are more crowded than this one isn’t. Besides, the X-Men and the Avengers are teams so their films should be more crowded than others. WB looks like it’s going to repeat the Iron Man 2 mistake by trying too hard to set up their Justice League movie.

  • eric bouchard

    I like the coldness in the eyes. We will see.

  • tetisheri

    I have to wonder what they are smoking when it comes to their casting choices. Maybe they have just decided that they aren’t ever going to beat Marvel and their choices, so they are just trolling us now?

  • Cellism

    What a wank.

  • Cellism

    See it’s not that simple because by their continued presence in film/TV/the public eye it not only legitimises them as someone ostensibly ‘worth listening to’ but, more generally, as someone whose opinion is seen to matter. If it was perceived that what Jeremy Irons thought about gay marriage or child molestation didn’t matter then there wouldn’t be media coverage on it.

    Knowing what we do know about Jeremy Irons’ personal beliefs and his continued prominence in these kinds of projects is the media’s way of saying ‘it’s completely okay to think these things!’ Which, y’know, it isn’t. As ludicrous as the gay marriage incest thing was, justifying paedophiles by claiming that young girls were ‘asking for it’ is completely inappropriate.

    Also please do not refer to any queer individual’s sexual orientation as a ‘lifestyle’ because it’s derogatory. Do you enjoy the heterosexual ‘lifestyle’ or do you just see it as sharing your life with the person your love?

  • http://www.mygeekygeekyways.com Starman

    I can see Eisenberg working, assuming they’re going with a Grant Morrison take on Luthor – i.e. the emotionally disconnected scientist who views himself as above the common clay of humanity. Problem is, I don’t know anyone who actually LIKES that take on Lex or – at least – doesn’t prefer Lex as the ultimate manipulator.

    Irons as Alfred just seems like lazy casting. We need a surly Brit. Is Rickman available? No? Who can we get then?

  • Charlie

    I still think of Jeremy Iron as ‘the guy from Play Away’ which, I guess, is showing my age :p I wonder if the rumor of Brian Cranston playing Lex came from a misheard conversation… hahaha.

  • Jess

    I just don’t have any confidence in Jesse exuding an arrogant, powerful demeanor. Then again, I also don’t have any confidence in this movie panning out well. Cranston would have easily been perfect. I’m interested in seeing how this movie looks when it’s finished, though.

  • Anonymous

    Bryan Cranston was interested – a superman fan – and would have been perfect. OH WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!!! Actually, to be perfectly honest, he would have been too good for this Superman series, so I’m glad they didn’t get him.

  • Mr. Warshaw

    So are you suggesting that people should be blacklisted and stifled for having a view that differs from prevailing opinions? If that were the way things were still done (read a history book, or Google McCarthy if you can’t be bothered), then the LGBTQRXTUVWXYZ community would never be where it is today because it wouldn’t have had the voice to overcome its position as a minority community. Demanding tolerance for one people group while asking that other folks be barred from public life is hypocrisy. If the public can’t distinguish Irons from his personal statements, then it is very much the public’s problem.

  • IndianSuburb

    So is he going to be bald?

  • Cellism

    Read this: http://www.salon.com/2013/06/1... and then talk you can about how we should allow this individual to continue working in the media spotlight. Go on.

  • Cellism

    Also you don’t get points for supporting equality if every single comment you make regarding queer people is laced with bitter resentment, sarcasm and cruelty.

  • http://adornyourhearts.tumblr.com Xomyx

    Well as a queer person I honestly feel sick to my stomach whenever someone mentions a homophobic/transphobic person, so yeah part of the movie is already gonna suck for me because its all I’ll be thinking about when I see him. And I loved Jeremy Irons :/

  • Mr. Warshaw

    I don’t care about points, and I’m certainly not seeking them. Making fun of a list of letters that seems to grow comically each week is hardly something that renders my entire post full of bitter resentment. Though I do marvel at your omniscience in discerning the whole body of my comments on the matter from a single comment you just read on some website.

    Now to the matter at hand. I read the article yesterday and it doesn’t change my mind. His comments about incest should sound ridiculous to anyone on either side of the marriage debate. His other comments were potentially in the same ridiculous boat. That still doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be allowed to make movies. You’d have a stronger (though still flawed) point if he were making movies promoting this sort of right, but he’s not (and if you want to bring up Lolita, you’ll have to blame the society that accepted it as art along with irons and nabokov).

    It’s worth reiterating that if our policy as a society was to stamp out radical views, then the community for which you advocate would not be enjoying the victories it is today. The price paid for open public discourse is that ideas you don’t like make it in the with the ideas you do like. Don’t wish it any other way, though, because the day may come when it is your opinion that is threatened with isolation, and though it is probable that I will disagree with it, I genuinely desire that you can express it.

  • Phoneo Nemo

    Oh dear, some man expresses a controversial opinion about marriage rights! ;) But seriously, if we were going to judge roles based on real life counterparts, there would be very few actors we’d want to see :P

  • Cellism

    You’re making aggressively homophobic comments and they are not appropriate. Referring to queer identity as a ‘lifestyle’ is not appropriate. Referring to any kind of sexual identification (or groups designed to support that, regardless of its name) is not appropriate. Justifying someone’s comments about extensively documented paedophilia of young children as merely ‘ridiculous’ is not appropriate.

    These views aren’t ‘radical’, they’re pernicious. Any kind of argument that suggest social equality can’t come around with the helpful hand of intolerance is maddening.

  • Cellism

    It’s not controversial, it’s sickening. And there are plenty of actors who stand up for decent causes.

  • Ruby Dynamite

    Michael would have been a superlative choice, anyway – if that’s what they were going for.

  • Jamie Jeans

    Ohhh… JEREMY Irons… for some reason, I was thinking Michael Ironside as Alfread! That made for a pretty interesting image. ^^

    And the more news that comes out about this film, the more I have to laugh and shake my head. It’s going to be a complete disaster, which I would normally laugh at, if not for the sneaking suspicion that they’re going to blame it on Wonder Woman.

  • MyScienceCanBeatUpYourGod

    “No you idiots, I said get me HEISENBERG!!!!”

  • http://robvincent.net/ Rob T Firefly

    And “scenery-chewing” and “Alfred Pennyworth” just don’t go together.

    *coughcoughMichaelCainecough*

  • Phoneo Nemo

    I trust Snyder more than I trust Goyer, and Goyer more than someone like say, Brian Taylor. But I feel like a strong independent mind is needed to realize a superhero film that is neither a direct adaptation, or simplistic action-driven movie. If it tries to cram too many characters, much storytelling potential will be lost. If it tries to go for a hyperserious approach, it will fail. We need a well-written, well paced movie with a balanced tone,.

  • Phoneo Nemo

    I don’t think ANYONE’S complaining about Irons ;)

  • Wraith Ideal

    Well as a straight person, just the thought of homosexuality sickens me, and it annoys me when celebrities promote or push homosexuality in everyone’s face. However, it doesn’t stop me from wanting to watch a movie if it looks good. Again, they are just actors who pretend for a living. There is no reason to listen to their voice outside of the movie or production they are in. Their voice has no merit in the real world. Just because someone disagrees with you point of view, does not mean that they hate you.

  • Rebecca Pahle

    “as a straight person, just the thought of homosexuality sickens me”

    …Really?

  • Wraith Ideal

    THEY ARE ACTORS! THEY PRETEND FOR A LIVING! They opinions have no merit in the real world. There are plenty of celebrities who support things/actions that many consider immoral and offensive. Actually, the majority of Hollywood and their films promote some form offensive images/material on way or another.

    To address your “lifestyle” comment. Your comment is hypocritical. Isn’t queer a derogatory term? Queer = strange, or weird; is that not more of an insult? And yes it is a lifestyle/choice a person makes. Every person chooses who they want to have sexual relations with. The fact is that homosexuality is unnatural. Set aside politics and religion for a second, and look at this “issue”
    from a completely biological perspective. They are called reproductive
    organs for a reason … to reproduce. Boys have penises, girls have
    vaginas. You will not find one animal species, or sub-species in the
    world that is exclusively homosexual. If they were they would drive
    themselves to extinction within a single generation. Males always
    compete for the female in season, they do NOT refuse a female for
    another male. Just as females do NOT refuse a male to mate with a
    female. Two animals of the same sex cannot “mate”, because mating is
    the act of reproduction … Two animals of the same sex cannot
    reproduce. You’ll never see a male lion have anal sex with another male
    lion. Furthermore you will never see a male lion have anal sex with a
    female lion … because it is not natural, and it would be detrimental
    to health of the animal. This action is unnatural, and was invented by
    perverted humans. Both men and women who receive anal intercourse have a
    higher risk of developing anal cancer. Men who have sex with men are
    up to 90 times more likely than the general population to develop anal
    cancer.

    Don’t distort my reply as a homophobic response. I am not afraid of any group of people. I am simply stating that just because someone disagrees with your point of view, doesn’t mean they hate you. It just means they have their own perspective. Live/enjoy your life without worrying about what someone else thinks about it. Not every one is going to agree with, nor do they have to agree with you. You have different tastes in music right? If you like rap music, and your friend doesn’t, does that mean that they hate you? No it just means they are a person with their own opinion. I personally don’t care for Affleck or his views, however; I think he’ll be cool in the role, and I look forward to watching this movie. Take your ego out of it, quit getting your feelings hurt every time someone doesn’t agree with you.

  • Mandy

    I wish they would have just brought back the Lex from Smallville. He was maybe my favorite part of that whole show.