BAD IDEAS FROM SMART PEOPLE

Indiana Jones 5 Is Still Happening According To Karen Allen (Sigh)

by Jill Pantozzi | 11:08 am, September 18th, 2012

When last we heard about Indiana Jones 5, producer Frank Marshall said George Lucas wasn’t writing it and that it wasn’t likely to happen at all. Marion Ravenwood begs to differ. I mean, actress Karen Allen does. And if you think she’s talking out of her ear, think again. She checked with Steven Spielberg first.

Movies.com got the interesting tidbit from the actress while speaking to her about the Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures Blu-ray set, in stores today. They asked directly if she’d be game for starring in a third Indiana Jones film. She said:

I would! And I, in fact, just talked with Steven Spielberg recently – we e-mailed back and forth, and I said, “What should I say? I’m doing this publicity, what should I say if people ask me that question?” And he said, “It’s in George’s [Lucas] hands! I’m game, Harrison’s game, and now it’s up to George to write the script or to get the script organized, and the story.” And so I think it’s – they want to do a fifth, from what I understand, but they don’t want to do it just to do it, they want to do it if they can come up with a story that everybody is happy with and that everybody likes.

Meanwhile, speaking with Entertainment Weekly, the actress had similar things to say.

We didn’t really talk about whether there would be another one. But during interviews for Crystal Skull, reporters were always asking Steven, “Why did you wait so long?” And he said, “Well, because I really had no intention of doing a fourth one, but people just wouldn’t let it go.” He said, “I can’t tell you how often people were saying to me, ‘Aren’t you going to do another one? Aren’t you going to do another one?’” And finally, he just said, “Okay! I’ll do another one!” So I think he kind of feels the same way about the fifth one. Do people want to see a fifth one, and can they come up with a story that they really feel excited about. That’s the criteria. They would love to do another one, but they don’t want to do it just to do it.

But are fans really bugging Spielberg for another? From what I’ve seen and hear, it’s the exact opposite. So at least there’s that.

Allen also discussed with EW the long lamented fact of her not starring in Indy 2 and 3.

People were so mad at me for not being in those films, but it really had nothing to do with me. When they first asked me to do the [first] film, they said, “This is the plan. The plan is we’re going to do three films. You’re in the first one. Whoever plays Indiana Jones will be in all three. They are going to go backwards in time, and you haven’t seen him for 10 years when your character meets him in Raiders, so you won’t be in those films.” At the time, I remember thinking, “Fantastic.” Because to me it was just a film I was doing. I didn’t know it would become this incredible, celebrated, beloved film. At the time, I thought, “Well, isn’t that great,” because as an actor you’re a little afraid of sequels. You’re not sure that you want tohave to do a film. At least at that time in my life, I loved the idea of being able to pick and choose what I wanted to do at any given moment. Of course, then it became such a huge success and then you think, “Oohhhhh.” [Laughter] “I don’t get to be in the next two?” But I never expected to be.

Are you all still “nay” on Indy 5?

(via Movies.com)

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Anonymous

Yes! Don’t care that the 4th one was meh but fun, (I thought it was fun don’t jump on me). I just care that it is Indiana Jones with no reboot, no recasting, just stright forward Harrison Ford & Karen Allen. Hopefully they will learn from their original mistakes with 4 and make it better in 5. Even if they don’t and Indiana Jones has to go all John Carter on a different planet I DON’T CARE!!
Anonymous

No, I’m Yay. I would happily pay to go see another one – as long as Marion is in it.
http://twitter.com/thatfilmgirl Nat

People forget that the original trilogy was a reflection on the time period that it took place in. Adventure Serials were the thing. With the movie taking place in the 1950s, of COURSE you can’t ignore the rise of the b-horror alien movies. I don’t understand how people could forget that.

So count me in, although I don’t know how I feel about Shia LeBouf at this time…
Anonymous

I got to see the latest Indiana Jones Film!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://twitter.com/Sarakenobi Sarakenobi

I am in, but lets leave the aliens out…
http://twitter.com/zenoferic Erica Throne

I was never a “nay” on a fifth film in the first place. The fourth film was a lot of fun and goes to show that Harrison Ford, Spielberg, and Lucas at least still have a lot of creative energy to expend.

As Nat said, I felt the aliens were appropriate! I don’t really understand the hate on the aliens. So we can have boxes that fry people from the inside out and the holy grail, but not dimensional-jumping aliens? That’s not fair to the aliens!
Anonymous

I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t hate the 4th. All I wanted was for it to be better than Temple of Doom, and I’m sorry, but it was. Goofy fun is all these movies ever were, and we can’t judge a new movie by how the old ones made us feel as kids. I thought it fit in with the other movies quite well.
Also, I’ve never had a problem with LeBouf, but I know that’s really just me.
http://twitter.com/rockinlibrarian Amy M Weir

I was about to reply “I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t hate the 4th” myself! Yes, exactly. It was a lot of fun, and while it wasn’t great cinema, were the originals really great cinema, either? I never quite got the RAGE directed at it. “Not the Greatest Movie Ever Made” doesn’t equal “terrible”…!
http://twitter.com/randomanalysis Darby

I’m with the rest of you- I really enjoyed the fourth also (yes, moreso than Temple of Doom). I would love to see a fifth if it included Marion and left out Shia!
http://twitter.com/randomanalysis Darby

AND I was one of the few who was not upset about the aliens ending! Seriously, it’s a fantastical adventure series where they deal with all sorts of magic (and religious superstitions realized!)- why not aliens?
Susie

No aliens, and no Shia, and I’d watch. With suspicion, but I’d watch.
http://twitter.com/zenoferic Erica Throne

High-five! I love me some sci-fi, and everything from the atomic fridge right down to to the inter-dimensional aliens was awesome. All that was missing was a genuine telepath on the bad guys’ team. XD
http://twitter.com/zenoferic Erica Throne

I doubt the fifth will be a continuation of the plot of 4. They’ve never been straight continuations! I think more sci fi is possible (I kind of hope so!), but I have a feeling they’ll back peddle into the occult based on fan reaction, Either way I’d be happy just to see another one.
http://technicalluddite.com/ Hannele Kormano

I didn’t mind the space aliens, I grit my teeth through Shia LaBeouf, I am up for another Indy as long as the characters can be human again.

Oh noes, we fall into a pit of spikes! Everyone OK, awesome, let’s keep going.

Sword fighting on Jeeps driving through the jungle? No problem, the hoods are perfectly stable.
And of course, the refrigerator.

Heroes are at their best when they get beat up, and then just keep going! C.f. original Indy, original John McClane, Malcolm Reynolds, even friggin Wei Shen in Sleeping Dogs, which is half an excuse to play badass Hong Kong gangster.
http://profile.yahoo.com/EJ3IEMCTILOSUGPCIP3XVE5MTQ navybluepolicebox

I didn’t like number 4 when it first came out. My great disappointment was it didn’t have Indy’s daughter, like we saw in Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.That would have been interesting: Indy dealing with two strong women (Marion and daughter) in the 1950′s, and would have served a great counterbalance to Last Crusade where it was Father/Son. Instead we got more of the same. Yawn. LIked the aliens-suited 1950s B-movies. Watched number 4 again a month ago, it wasn’t as bad as I remembered it, but I still would have preferred to see Indy, Marion, and their daughter. Now, they can’t go back and fix it. : (
Anonymous

Yeah I want 5. Indy :-D
http://www.facebook.com/pawel.a.laskowski.9 Pawel Andrzej Laskowski

I loved the 4th movie! I dont understand why so many people disliked it. I felt it still stayed true to the Indiana Jones franchise. I hear that they will probably not do a 5th but I really really hope that they change their mind. I would love to see one more on the big screen!
Calin Meze

Indiana Jones is the true best adventure movie pack ever. I grew up with them and I don’t want to stop. I wish there were more than 4. I am really hoping for a 5th installment, and why not, even a 6th one. I just wanna see Ford playing this character for as many times as possible. I’m a really big fan. I loved the sci-fi angle, and considering all the “Ancient Aliens” mysteries trend I believe there are countless possible ideas to follow next. I love the fact that they did not chose to reboot it. Please DO more sequels. I do not agree with people saying that sequels suck. If you have a good recipe then why stop using it? Why do you have to keep trying new recipes that are not necessarily good. Whoever says Indiana Jones is not great cinema is subjective. It’s an opinion, just like mine. But hey… if that’s not great cinema… then you should really stick to watching the tens of really stupid “cinema” movies that appear every week, and leave us alone to watch our beloved sequels. It’s true that many movies turned to trilogies sucked over the years, but that is not a rule. They sucked because the producers changed the recipe, tried different things (that proved later to be stupid… and then kept trying until they destroyed the original movie entirely). I’m not a huge fan of LaBeouf, but it was a good choice I believe. Let’s not forget that Indy had a father in the early movies. And turning Indiana Jones into a movie where a woman (daughter) is the hero… would ruin the whole movie in just one strike. I’ve had enough with “cinema” super-chicks beating hundreds of men in one movie… thats the “sci-fi” I do not want to see anymore. And also Indy gets beaten all the time… I do not want to see a woman getting beaten up
Anonymous

I think you didn’t exactly get the gist of what I said… I saw all the movies, including the last one… That’s what I meant.
Brasco

The 4th one was great. It’s a fitting story if you know about the mitchell hedges skull. Overall it’s a good conclusion to the series but if they decide to make another Indiana jones, I will definitely watch it.
Christopher Palmer Brown

I’m definitely yay on this, though to be honest I liked the fourth film a lot and kind of feel it’s a good place to leave the series, but I do feel like Indiana Jones might have one more adventure in him.
Andino Rejuns

Nat. Leave us alone,…its just a very bad boring and lazy made movie. That have to do 0 with aliens stuff. You could do an Indy film with donald duck if you want but if you marrie him and give him that wife or you lethim survive to a nuke explotion or you make he dont resolve any mistery in the whoole movie…you killhim as a starr character and then you kill the entire genere
Anonymous

If George Lucas puts anymore CGI monkeys, gophers, nuclear refrigerators or any other cute animals in this I’m going to do my part to make sure his career ends.