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And All Was Right With the World

Gal Gadot Wants Everybody to Know She’s Working Out


Hey Batman, how about THESE GUNS? Oohhhhh dead parent jokes, never gonna get old.

(Gal Gadot’s Facebook page via Superhero Hype.)

Previously in Wonder Woman

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  • Troy Lenze

    Those are looking like Wonder Woman arms.

  • Anonymous

    The fact that she even has to prove this is ridiculous!

  • Anonymous

    Just watched a clip of her in one of the Fast and Furious movies. Now I totally understand that the writing is so bad that ANYONE would have a hard time making it look good, but it didn’t fill me with a lot of hope for her acting ability. ::Sigh:: I want her to rock in this movie, but the more I hear about the movie, the less I like :(

  • Anonymous

    I would be more exited if she wanted us to know she was working on her acting. Got to be honest.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s less about her, and more about bucking a general Hollywood trend to demand men to bulk up for hero roles while women are expected to stay slender, even spindly. Given that WW has super strength, it seems appropriate that the actor playing her would do the same sort of physical prep (putting on some visible muscle) as if she were a male preparing to play Superman or Batman. Or Wolverine. Or Iron Man. Or Captain America. Or Spiderman. Or….

  • brokey mcpoverty

    Never have been concerned with her physical transformation, but this is pretty col. Looks like shes goin all in for Wonder Woman.

  • http://runt.org/ Adrian

    I’d recommend watching Fast 6, if you’re really curious. It’s a pretty fun action flick and she’s fun to watch in it.

  • Laura Truxillo

    Not…really? I mean, yes, some people are just flat-out against her (I think even with guns she’s a bit waif-like to play THE Amazon, because generally there’s only so much you can do with any given body type, and that’s fine. But I also want to see how her acting is).

    But Hollywood’s got itself a habit of not wanting their action ladies to be too buff, because they’re supposed to be sexy things first, and given Snyder’s record…I dunno, it seemed like a plausible fear, not that she wouldn’t be good enough or couldn’t look right, but that Snyder might not WANT her to (because actors and actresses generally gain/lose weight/muscle at the behest of TPTB making the movie).

  • Anonymous

    But the men who play Superman, Wolverine, Batman and others
    were not body shamed when it was announced they were casted in those roles the Gadot was when she was cast as Diana!

  • Anonymous

    Gadot was body shamed when she was cast as Diana by the general public and that’s the only reason this photo was released.

  • http://www.apocprod.com/ Rogue428

    Wait so the Batfleck uproar? or the puzzlement when a skinny Henry Cavill was announced? Selective memory?

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    I was flabbergasted that people didn’t think she’d tone up in time. Like, do they think women are soft, delicate creatures who have to be thrusted into muscles? It doesn’t take that long, especially when you have trainers specifically focused on helping actresses get the kind of muscles the role is looking for.

  • Cad Wallader

    Toby Maguire was. Pratt was. I think once it became apparent, however, that it was something expected of anyone cast as a superhero, people assumed the training would begin and it wouldn’t be an issue. Thus far, that hasn’t been as obvious for women cast as superheroines, for a variety of reasons. ScarJo did a lot of physical prep for Widow in IM2, but traditionally female supers don’t bulk up much, which in WW’s case is something her fans are worried about.

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    Yeah, but I remember Chris Evans in some really, really stupid movies. Including that one other Marvel franchise.

  • Cad Wallader

    I think the concern wasn’t that Gadot COULDN’T get in WW shape in time, but that she WOULDN’T. That’s not on her, because if fans were worried Snyder would cast WW as a supermodel, Gadot isn’t going to boost their confidence. I was always hopeful she would be permitted to bulk up a bit for the role, but given the creative pedigree of this film, it was never certain.

  • Anonymous

    lol, as much as I love watching Vin Diesel, from the clip I saw, I don’t know if I could make it through that movie :D

  • Anonymous

    I’m not saying that certain male actors were not given a hard time by the general public because of they’re casting. But the shame Gal Gadot received was so over the top, it personally sicken me and it sucks that she has to release these photos just to shut her critics up. P.S. Henry Cavill was already buff from his role in The Immortals.

  • Cad Wallader

    Unfortunately her critics aren’t going to shut up until they see her performance onscreen, and the easy part is bulking up. The hard part is reading the lines from Goyer and being directed by Snyder.

  • http://www.apocprod.com/ Rogue428

    True. That’s just part of Comic book casting. Look at the blowback going on from the new Fantastic Four (or the old one for that matter). Anyone who knows Snyder’s MO as far as looks go, knew that he tends to cast thin and have actors look ripped. Remember Fassbender in 300?

  • J Ritchey

    When was Henry Cavill skinny? While he wasn’t the walking tank he ended up as for MoS (personally think he went a bit overboard there), most of the roles I’ve seen him in he was “the muscly guy.”

  • Anonymous

    I actually enjoyed Man Of Steel and I’m looking forward to the sequel aka The Justice League set-up movie.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not just “comic book casting” in the case Gal Gadot the amount of body shaming that was thrown at her by the public was beyond shameful and demeaning.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but Chris Evans made his part in Fantastic Four good. Gal Gadot cannot say the same.

  • http://runt.org/ Adrian

    Yet.

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    Personally I didn’t think he was super great in FF, but I adore his Steve. Just saying, sometimes it depends on the role and how it’s written.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, where are these muscles?

  • Adrian

    I’ve no doubt she or any actor/actress can get built up or down physically, depending on the role. It’s her acting that I’m more concerned with.

    As someone who is a casual fan of the Fast and Furious films, it goes without saying that those films aren’t based around good acting.

  • Laura Truxillo

    Aside from the fact that, no they totally were, there’s also again the fact that actors are frequently made bulk up to look musclebound for hero roles, but actresses rarely are told/allowed to do the same. The actresses work out, yes, to be in shape and to be able to do the moves, and to Look Good, but they generally don’t tell them: “Now put on lots of muscle tone.”

    Then there’s the fact that it kind of *is* harder for some women to actually “bulk up.” There are women out there who put on heavy muscle when they work out. If that’s Gadot’s “guns” then she isn’t one of them. Which doesn’t make her not able to play a superhero. But it would’ve been nice to see a more Amazonian look to Wonder Woman. It’s not quite as bad as casting someone slender for, say Big Barda, but still.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Ive only recently had the chance to see Man of Steel and im honestly baffled by the negative reaction on the internet. Personally, I find it to be the best superhero film ive seen yet.

  • MeatyStakes

    It was never an issue of she could, is if they WOULD. And that they chose an actress that was very lithe doesn’t bring peace of mind.

    WW is BUFF, and even if I take of my hat to Gadot for her comitment, I still feel they are going for toned and sleek instead of amazonian warrior.

    I can live with that, but still sucks that the studio seems to be going that way.

  • MeatyStakes

    You just can’t dismiss every critique as such when there IS an argument to be made that Gadot doesn’t have the frame of a amazonian warrior. That’s not body shaming.

    They are still going more for sleek instead of bulk, and there’s no way around that.

  • Anonymous

    I essentially agree – fans of Wonder Woman have a right to express their preference for an ‘Amazonian’ to be cast in the role (though acting chops are equally important, IMHO). The language directed towards Gal Gadot, however, push a lot of the comments from ‘critique’ into ‘abuse’.

  • Mariah Huehner

    Still pretty tired of people being more concerned with how Wonder Woman looks than how she’s written. She could be everyone’s “ideal” looking WW (not really, that’s impossible) and if she’s written poorly then it doesn’t matter at all. People should be way, way, way more concerned about what Snyder will do with her character than how bulky or not bulky she is.

    And the thing about body critique…it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. You can say it’s just about how Wonder Woman is an Amazon, but Gal Gadot is a real person. So sliding into body judgement and shaming because she doesn’t meet your physical interpretation of WW isn’t helping anything. I get that Hollywood has a very specific type they tend to cast and it has larger ramifications. But so does criticizing an actress for her irl body. There’s no way to get around that when discussing that and it’s not something a lot of people want to admit to.

    There’s also the fact that a LOT of people object to Gadot’s slimness, not really because it’s not “Amazonian”, but because they want their personal, sexual fantasy version of WW. Which isn’t the same as being concerned about body diversity.

    Finally, what people should really be asking: will WW sense of justice, fierce compassion, intelligence, loyalty, and other CHARACTER traits be represented well? Are we going to get a real Wonder Woman depiction or something like Sucker Punch, which says it’s “empowering” but is anything but? That’s what I want to know.

  • myverysarcasm

    I’ll just never get the hate towards Snyder and the female characters he creates. Sucker Punch was such an awesome, layerd movie about women struggling against abuse and opression. It took me watching it 3 times to realize that Baby Doll didn’t even exist, that the “hero” was only made up in Sweat Pea’s mind and that we never even got to see her reality, that all 3 layers of this world were conjured up in Sweat Pea’s mind to deal with the loss of her sister. That movie is so deep, such a great comment on the way different societies treated women…
    After watching that movie I have no idea how anyone could think that Snyder would not write an awesome WW and cast the perfect actress.

  • SCP3

    I concur that the writing is important, but let’s not fool ourselves: if DJ Qualls was cast as Superman in the next movie, no one would be talking about the writing.

  • SCP3

    It was a long time ago now, and we didn’t have the internet to spread it around, but I seem to recall people not exactly being enthused about Keaton being cast as Batman, and at least partly because they didn’t think he looked the part.

  • Joanna

    I guess…

    I just pictured Wonder Woman to be taller and more broad shouldered.

  • Anonymous

    Gal Gadot is the same height as Lynda Carter and Lynda had ‘baby fat’ during the first season of WW. I’m not saying Gal Gadot shouldn’t bulk up for the role, I just feel like no actor should be judge until the final product is made and released to the public.

  • Anonymous

    Then the movie was released and he proved everyone who criticized him wrong!

  • Anonymous

    What exactly is the ‘amazonian warrior’? If you based it on the comics, Wonder Woman has been drawn from average size to muscle bound over the last 73 years.

  • Laura Truxillo

    Are we making a 1970′s Wonder Woman show? And again, I’m not talking about height, I’m talking about build. Although I hope that they will go with Wonder Woman being the tallest of the trio, or at least taller than Batman (camera tricks and what-not), but I doubt it.

    I think we do a lot of judging and guessing and talking about what we think any given actor is going to be like (And against, I’m not talking about Gadot in a vacuum, I’m talking about the combination of Gadot+Snyder+HollywoodImage). I don’t think it’s inherently wrong so long as it stays civil.

  • Laura Truxillo

    And in the past decade or so, for the most part, she’s been drawn looking powerful, with serious shoulders and biceps

    (of a woman) characteristic of or like an Amazon; powerful and aggressive; warlike.

    I get that you’re going to nitpick it, and I dunno, maybe guys aren’t as tuned to what body descriptor words mean on a nuanced level. Generally a woman being called Amazonian isn’t just fit or athletic. They’re tall and “Built”–kind of brawny, and yeah, usually curvy too.

    But sure, whatever, let’s just make the word “Amazonian” mean whatever, because heaven forbid that we get a Wonder Woman who doesn’t look like an average action chick.

  • Laura Truxillo

    I had fun watching Sucker Punch, and the story was interesting, but the movie itself was hella exploitive.

  • Laura Truxillo

    “But so does criticizing an actress for her irl body.”

    Can I just say that there is a difference between criticizing an actress for her body (“Gadot is way too skinny!”) and criticizing a casting choice that doesn’t fit a type? SCP3 made a good point–D.J. Qualls is a pretty good actor, he could probably pull off a Clark Kent-ish aw shucks charm no problem. But cast him as Superman? It doesn’t fit. That’s not “shaming.” There’s nothing wrong with his body, it just doesn’t fit that particular role.

    “There’s also the fact that a LOT of people object to Gadot’s slimness,
    not really because it’s not “Amazonian”, but because they want their
    personal, sexual fantasy version of WW.”

    Are you sure? Because I thought Gadot was considered pretty “hot.” Physically powerful women in mainstream Hollywood movies though, not so much. I think it’s a bit much to say that the sexy factor is more of a driving force than the “Hey, maybe I wanted a little wish fulfillment in the form of a muscled-up Wonder Woman”

    “Finally, what people should really be asking: will WW sense of justice,
    fierce compassion, intelligence, loyalty, and other CHARACTER traits be
    represented well?”

    Probably not? Through no fault of Gadot’s. But she’ll be shoehorned into a three-hero picture, and not as one of the title heroes. Dwelling on *that* question just makes people even more depressed. At least debating whether or not she’ll have wonder-biceps doesn’t come with quite as much dwelling on how very badly they could screw her up in the writing.

  • Anonymous

    My comments come from reading all the horrible things that were said about Gadot when it was announced she was cast as Diana. I guess it is human nature to be all judgy about things we care about but at the same so many actors have proven themselves after receiving harsh criticism before their performance were actually released to public – all I’m trying to say is lets wait and see and stop with the body shaming.

  • Mariah Huehner

    Yes, I am sure. Most of the men commenting on WW’s physique with the “eat a sandwich” type of comments are more concerned with how WW looks than how she is portrayed. We’re talking about what the fans of WW think, not Hollywood. And a lot of fans have talked up, for instance, her breast size. Like WW’s cup size is some kind of character trait. I’m not making that up, go check out conversations on Twitter between folks like Phil Jimenez (who is awesome and NOT doing that) or Gail Simone. Both have a lot of experience with the character and both have been dealing with what I mentioned. A lot.

    I’d like to see criticism of Hollywood’s lack of body diversity…but no at the expense of the real bodies of women. Gadot is a type, fine. Some people feel she is not the right “type” for WW. I would argue that people should check out WW’s actual statistics to get a better idea of what you’re working with. Ie. they are all over the place. Most put her at about five eleven and anywhere from 140 to 150 pounds. I can tell you right now: that’s a slim build for that height. And a tall order for ANY actresses in Hollywood, who are generally smaller for a whole host of reasons. The actress who plays Brienne of Tarth is the first who comes to mind: but I guarantee you we’d be hearing another outcry about her, just like when she was cast as Brienne. Women literally cannot win in these conversations.

    It’s all well and good to say there’s a difference, and there should be, but like I said: the conversation is not happening in a vacuum. It is happening within a culture that tears women apart for how they look, no matter what they look like. So talking about Gadot is loaded, whether we like it or not. And it does matter and we can all end up in territory we don’t want to be in with it intentionally or not.

    See, your comment right there about the writing? That’s really…wow. So instead of focusing on the real problem, let’s just keep on the status quo of reducing female characters to their physique because that definitely solves things. Look, I know you mean well and I get what you’re saying…I just think this conversation is always going to be a problem and people want to deny it so they can keep having it without being called on the fact that it’s inherently problematic.

  • Laura Truxillo

    “See, your comment right there about the writing? That’s really…wow. So instead of focusing on the real problem, let’s just keep on the status quo of reducing female characters to their physique because that definitely solves things.”

    Who’s solving? I’m just tired. And they’re BOTH “real problems.” But I’ve had the conversation of “Oh, look, DC effed up another lady character. AGAIN.” so so SO very often, that I’m tired. But that was mostly facetious. I can, actually, discuss both my trepidation about how DC will choose to portray it’s women AND my irritation that they went with a slender Wonder Woman (AND, for that matter I can even wonder if Gadot has the acting chops for this, just as I wonder if Affleck can convincingly be anyone but Affleck-As-Batman).

    “I’d like to see criticism of Hollywood’s lack of body diversity…but no
    at the expense of the real bodies of women”

    So what *ISN’T* body-shaming? That’s the thing. You can’t say, “Hey, I don’t think ____ is physically right for role ____” without it being body-shaming? I think that’s taking it a bit too far. The people with the “eat a sandwich, skinny” mentality do need to shut up, but it’s NOT inherently problematic to say that an actor doesn’t fit the visual concept of a character. This isn’t theatre–movies do cast to a visual. It’s not saying that you think someone has the wrong body, it’s that you think they have the wrong look for the part. You don’t cast a bulky Nightwing. You don’t cast a slender Superman. You don’t cast a tall Tyrion.

    Moreover, in Wonder Woman, they had an excellent opportunity to have a different sort of actress in the role. It could have gone to an actress whose strength is more brawny than wiry, and it would have made sense.

    “I would argue that
    people should check out WW’s actual statistics to get a better idea of
    what you’re working with. Ie. they are all over the place. Most put her
    at about five eleven and anywhere from 120 to 150 pounds.”

    Dude, those states are all made the hell up anyway, for every character. Especially the weight on lady supers. But in the past decade or so, she’s been *drawn* more powerfully than most.

    “Further, if you look at pics of Gadot and Linda Carter from back in the day…they’re not far off size wise.”

    People keep bringing this up. That was also, what, the 70′s? I mean, Linda Carter is a fine Wonder Woman, absolutely. But there were just as many, if not more stipulations on how “feminine” a woman should look, even if she was doing all the action.

    ” But that’s really not where her character comes from and concentrating on it as the sole defining thing about her is really, deeply, bad.”

    I’m not really concentrating on it as the sole defining thing. I’m concentrating on it because that was the whole point of this article: “Oh look, see, she’s totally buffing up. Only, well…not really, but she’s working out!”

    But y’know what? It IS a big part of her character for me. Maybe not as much as her compassion or her sense of justice or her being a warrior. But for me, it IS important. I got a lot of grief in high school because I didn’t tone nicely when I worked out–I bulked up. I had, as well-meaning people told me, shoulders like a line-backer. I was muscly and I felt unfeminine as hell, even though I had curves and all the what-not.

    Getting into DC and seeing characters like Wonder Woman (and Barda) who weren’t just magically strong-but-slender, but who actually had Shoulders and Biceps and, yeah, a bit of muscled bulk, but who were still considered attractive? That was kind of a big deal.

    This would have been a great opportunity to have someone with body type a bit different from what we normally get from the leading ladies. They didn’t even take a swing at that ball.

    It’s not Gadot’s fault that Hollywood prefers its actresses to look a certain way. There is NOTHING wrong with her body. She’s fine the way she is. I just really wish they had picked someone else.

  • myverysarcasm

    I can see where your coming from. But imo the set-ups and clothes were meant to be a comment on the male gaze in our media. Also noticeable: the director never gave us gracious butt or cleavage shots. And when Baby Doll danced they always zoomed in on her eyes, you never actually got to see the sexy dance.

    Also, there was a deleted ending in which the High Roller turned out to be a good man, who didn’t want to rape her, but wanted to give her pleasure. According to Jon Hamm they had to cut the scene because apparently showing rape is ok, but showing a woman enjoying sex would have brought the movie an R rating.

  • MeatyStakes

    Of course, there are always groups that miss the point and go right down to the bashing. It’s commonplace and that’s sad.

    But as we shouldn’t let negativity and bashing overpower the good aspects, we should not let it also drown more legitimate concerns.

    Gadot is doing her best, bless her heart, but I still feel that the studio cast her exactly because she is of a lither frame.

  • MeatyStakes

    And I do prefer the ones where her physicality is imposing. She is a powerhouse capable of going toe to toe with Superman, and that should be evident; she is part of a warrior race.

    Don’t be obtuse about the “amazonian warrior” type, is fairly obvious. Wonder Woman is a melee hero, and a great part of her prowess is due to her training and culture beyond just run of the mill super strength.

    Wonder Woman SHOULD be physically imposing, as Spiderman has to be lean muscled and agile. Different strengths and disciplines require different body types. A weight lifter doesn’t have the same body type as a sprinter or a fencer.

  • MeatyStakes

    With all respect to Lynda Carter, she wasn’t the ideal body type for Wonder Woman either. She did an amazing job, and she brought the character to life in other wonderful ways, but her physicality was a product of her time and in no way should it be considered an argument in favor.

  • MeatyStakes

    Best Comment Award *applause*

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you for the most part. However Wonder Woman is a “god blessed magical being” so her actual body type doesn’t necessary need to reflect her training or her super strength as it would a ‘normal being’ with her skill set and physical strength.

  • MeatyStakes

    Are you really trying to explain all of Diana’s prowess on “magical super strength”?

    No; her raw strength might be of magical origin, but her prowess comes from her training, her skill comes from years of perfecting.

    She is the best melee fighter of the world acording to Batman; she is master of both unarmed and armed combat and the greatest amazonian warrior to ever live.

    That is practice, that is training. The gods gave her super strength, but it was her training what gives her her skill in battle.

  • Anonymous

    Reread what I said. Both her TRAINING and strength wouldn’t necessarily reflect on her body they it would on a ‘normal being’.

  • MeatyStakes

    Then what are you saying? that years of training wouldn’t give her musculature because the source of her power was “magical”?

    Does that make sense for every other superhero even? Assuming that even one has a regime even close as demanding as Diana.

  • Anonymous

    Because she’s a ‘magical being’ her training doesn’t necessarily change her body type.

    Take Joss Whedon’s ‘slayers’ as an example – they get all training/power yet they still come in different shapes and sizes.

    I’m not saying Diana shouldn’t have muscular body – I’m just saying because she’s a ‘magical being’ it can justify why some artist have drawn her from average size to muscle bound to the casting of an actor of a ‘certain body type’.

  • Anonymous

    Pfft. That logic will apply in the same universe where Superman can be played by DJ Qualls. Hey, all his power comes from just showing up near this yellow sun of ours….why would he ever have developed muscle mass?

  • Anonymous

    I’m inclined to think that Xena set a new bar for depictions of female heroes. It’s a trend I hope continues….

  • Anonymous

    I’m inclined to think that Xena set a new bar for depictions of female heroes. It’s a trend I hope continues….

  • Anonymous

    If Flashpoint was ever made into a live-action movie DJ Qualls would be perfect in the role of Superman.

  • Anonymous

    If Flashpoint was ever made into a live-action movie DJ Qualls would be perfect in the role of Superman.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the comments I’ve seen against Gadot reference her limited acting range, not her physique.

  • Anonymous

    Most of the comments I’ve seen against Gadot reference her limited acting range, not her physique.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to see some examples of this body shaming.

  • Anonymous

    Bwah! That’s hilarious. I was trying to think of who the male actor equivalent would be of the skinny female waif that is standard. And I arrived at the same conclusion.

  • Anonymous

    For me, it can be summed up as “Hollywood has this brilliant chance to cast a non-Hollywood standard physique because that non-Hollywood physique would suit the role better…and instead, they cast the standard Hollywood physique, because gods forbid there be a woman on screen who weighs in above waifer thin, even if she’s supposed to be a battle-ready Amazon warrior”.

  • Anonymous
  • MeatyStakes

    Hey, if it works for you, great, but don’t come off thinking that your arguments are actually compelling.

    I really don’t want to spend all week talking about gender bias when male characters with a speck of wonder woman’s martial training are jacked up to 11.

  • Anonymous

    When did this convo turn into about gender bias?

    Also I’m not disagreeing with your points in fact I agree with most of them.

  • Anonymous

    Gal Gadot, like all women in Israel, is an army-trained soldier. Israeli army, no less. Everyone should know that she could probably kick all their asses regardless of how skinny she does or doesn’t look. It’s kind of ridiculous that this is even an issue.