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Fox’s Gotham Will Be Batman-Less, Maybe Not Bruce Wayne-Less

Back in September we learned of Fox’s plans to make Gotham, a Batman-less TV show that would serve as an origin story both for Commissioner Gordon and “the villains who made Gotham City famous.” The whole thing caused Susana to be a bit bzuh?, because so many of Batman’s villains just plain don’t work without Batman also in the picture. But the show’s still chug-chug-chugging along, and today we’ve learned that while there won’t be Batman, there might be Bruce Wayne, albeit an itty-bitty one.

Via a casting notice on Television Show Auditions:

“A 10-year-old Bruce Wayne is among the roles that are now being cast as series regulars on the upcoming Fox TV series “Gotham” which explores the origin stories of Commissioner James Gordon and the villains that made Gotham City famous. Under development for over a year, the project has now been given a direct-to-series order by the network, which won an intense bidding war for the Warner Bros. Television rights to the show. Shooting on the pilot episode will get underway in March, 2014 and will center on Gotham City PD rookie homicide detective James Gordon who investigates the double murder of Thomas and Martha Wayne.”

Interestingly, if you go to the site now you’ll notice that they’ve switched the first sentence to “A 10-year-old Bruce Wayne is among the roles that are rumored to now being cast…” (emphasis mine). So all this is still in the realm of the potential. But the show having Gordon investigating the cause of the Waynes’ death could be interesting. What do you think?

(via: SuperHeroHype)

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  • Erin Treat

    Not that interesting since he obviously will never solve it . This is sounding really weird. Setting it that far back is dumb for a number of reasons, chief among them, ALL the most interesting and recognizable characters from the comics won’t be in the show. No villians, no Renee Montoya. WTF?

  • Anonymous

    In at least one version of Batman’s origins in the comics — a fairly recent origin retcon — it is in fact the police that catch his parents’ murderer. So the idea has precedence. As I understand it, it’s the murder, not the catching of the murderer, that drives Batman; usually when they portray him as looking for revenge for the murder he ends up rejecting the motivation early in his career.

    So…maybe in this telling, Gordon, after a long chase, gets the guy who kills the Waynes, and that’s the “myth” plot of the series. But it also possibly presents a way to re-balance the Gordon/Batman friendship, which could be interesting, as well. If Bruce looks up to Gordon, that makes Gordon partially “responsible” for The Batman, good and bad, which would be a new twist from prior portrayals (although Gordon has been much older than Batman in the past…)

    But that would, I think, be a difference series — and that’s one of the traps these writers have to avoid. I don’t envy them this task, and it’s fraught with the risk of failure.

  • Anonymous

    An Alfred prequel series would be more interesting than yet another cop show if they’re not directly adapting Gotham Central.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Perhaps, but how many of thosee villians actually rely on Batman to exist?

    Catwoman was a thief before Batman and he didn’t inspire or influence her career path.
    Scarecrow, Mad Hatter, The Ventriloquist and the Riddler were all psycho’s who created themselves more or less.

    In fact, aside from the Joker and some takes on Mister Freeze & Two-face, none of them really hinge on Batmans existence. Especially if you were to look at the golden age comics where all of these criminals predated the caped crusader

  • Temmere

    This is just completely misguided. The whole point of the Batman mythos is that things in Gotham were too bad for the police to handle until he showed up. If you start showing Jim Gordon winning the war on crime when Bruce Wayne is still a child then there really is no need for Batman. (Particularly if the supervillains appear; if even normal cops can take them down, what’s the point of Batman at all?) And if Gordon doesn’t slow down crime at all and everything just keeps getting worse, then, well, I’ve already seen that show. It was called Low Winter Sun, and it (barely) lasted ten episodes because people don’t want to watch something that bleak.

  • Jamie Jeans

    So… no series about any of the other women from the DCU who could lead a show, but a cop series about a cop who never solves a crime that makes one of the cities vigilantes…

    Cripes almighty, between this and Zack Snyder directing Wonder Woman in a movie that’s not about her, you are seriously god damned pushing it…

  • NickN

    I was really hoping the series would take place when Bruce is in his early twenties traveling around the world learning how to be Batman; setting the show in a timeframe where you could start using supervillains as antagonists without having Batman show up.

    I’ve never particularly liked procedural shows and I’m not really up for watching one that only just barely related to comic book characters I like. I’ve already wasted enough time on Agents of Shield.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Tell me about it. Heck, how many people are aware that Alfred started off as a sherlock holmes inspired detective from britain who was trying to solve crimes before batman and ends up taking a job as waynes butler after years of failure? XD

    Or that it was only thirty or so issues in, during the year 1940 before Robin showed up because the boy wonder was such a vital element to the Batman mythos.

    That doesn’t even go into some of the other gems in the mythos like Greyson becoming an attorney or batman marrying catwoman once and for all.

    Some takes try to insist Batman is a mysterious urban myth that nobody is aware of existing for realsies, others play him as prominent public figure whose existence is known worldwide.
    Some takes try to suggest that Gotham was hunky dorey until Batman came along which inspired the creation of every villian ever while yet other takes say the city was in the crudder with nutters like the red hood running around all willy nilly, prompting batmans emergence.

    As often as Batman has been retooled and given the plain fact that television takes don’t have to rely on the comic books at all (batman the animated series created harley quinn for their cartoon and it is also where mister freeze recieved his most memorable origin) There is really very little that requires Batman to be even a feature. Especially since even those villians for whom Batman would be considered vital have had backstories where they were supervillianous criminals long before Batman even existed. (Who knows how many decades the ventriloquist had been around given how often the character is depicted as middle aged)

    Add that to the fact that several of Batmans enemies are legacy villians (three different ventriloquists, a handful of clayface’s, )
    and the fact that several of Batmans most iconic villians are more or less immortal (ra shal ghuul, vandal savage) and it could even serve as a good build up to a batman tv show.

    Could do a spinoff after Gotham PD ends, focusing on a teenage Wayne traveling the globe learning from various masters to hone his skills and earn the badassness thats required to be Batman from detectives and martial artists worldwide, building its way into a year one of sorts.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    If Riddler did hack the computer, he would probably be so compelled to leave behind a riddle revealing it was him that he’d just get detention. XD

    But golly, that sounds like a fun concept XD
    Though more likely, it would be the likes of Dent given the whole riches angle

    Hmm…Come to think of it, the Penguin could also work since the character is often depicted as older than Batman. Would be rather interesting since the take on him nowadays has beeen a casino owning out in the open criminal who the police cannot touch because they can’t prove his criminal doings.