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Guys, I Think Firefly Is Officially Corpsified. Joss Whedon & Nathan Fillion Weigh In.


Browncoats have continually held out hope they would get more of their beloved Firefly. Is it time to let go? See what Joss Whedon and Nathan Fillion recently had to say on the subject and decide for yourself.

As much as I love Firefly, I never actually believed we’d see more of it after Serenity hit theaters but some fans are relentless. Even though many of the actors have moved onto other, steady gigs, they think getting the band back together is not just feasible, but a great idea.

Whedon did an interview with Coming Soon, recently in which he discussed the reality of it all from his perspective:

Right now I’m happy to say everybody is working doing good jobs. There’s a real fear of ‘The Monkey’s Paw,’ you know? You bring it back to life and it isn’t the same. Even if it’s GREAT and it isn’t the same. I’m dying to get on a ship with those guys again, but I’m also doing yet another goddamn huge ensemble movie ['The Avengers 2']. Why can’t I do a movie about just one guy? So right now I can’t even access that part of my brain. If all the planets align that would be great, but I’m not going to do what I did the first time and move heaven and earth to make it happen.

And then Fillion spoke to HitFix about it during press for Monsters University. “You know, that was a project that…it lived for so short a time and such a long time ago, I would look at that as an impossibility,” he said. “Joss Whedon made a movie of it, something I also considered an impossibility, so I look at that and say, ‘Where is the hope?’ But knowing Joss Whedon…I try not to underestimate that man.”

If you watch the video of that interview, you can tell Fillion is trying to leave it open for fans to hope but doesn’t really have any himself. We’ve seen the fans’ passion over and over, but passion only goes so far when it comes to actors’ and creators’ lives.

When a Kickstarter notion came up a while back, Whedon said, “It also remains the case that I’m booked up by Marvel for the next three years, and that I haven’t even been able to get Dr. Horrible 2 off the ground because of that. So I don’t even entertain the notion of entertaining the notion of doing this, and won’t. Couple years from now, when Nathan [Fillion]‘s no longer [on] Castle and I’m no longer the Tom Hagen of the Marvel Universe and making a giant movie, we might look and see where the market is then. But right now, it’s a complete non-Kickstarter for me.”

I know a lot of you will never, ever give up hope. But don’t forget, if you need a Firefly fix, Dark Horse Comics puts out some really great Serenity titles.

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  • http://zadl.org/ Captain ZADL

    Drat.

  • Anonymous

    As much as I loved Firefly (indeed, because I loved it so much), I wouldn’t want a full-fledged continuation of the show a la Arrested Development or even a sequel to the movie. I think it was just one of those things where the stars aligned and the chemistry worked among the cast, crew and creators at that time, but after years apart doing other projects, the chemistry will likely have changed. On top of that, all the pressure to satisfy fans will result in either a superficial caricature of the original or, conversely, a not-quite-right feeling.

    That said, I do think a series of 5-minute webisodes could work, because even something that would feel like a caricature if drawn out over a full hour just feels like hitting the highlights when taken in small doses, and the fans’ own nostalgia would fill in the background so it wouldn’t come across as superficial.

  • http://pearlrose86.livejournal.com/ Maggie

    I don’t think that getting the original cast back together would (or really could) happen at this point, but I’d love it if they could set some more stories in the same universe. There’s a whole setting out there, and I think that might be the only feasible way of doing a sequel/spin-off at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, as much as I love and adore the Serenity crew, at this point it’s hard to envision them coming together again in any satisfying way. I could see other projects in the ‘Verse down the line though. What about a “Firefly TNG” concept, with a new crew in the same world (complete with snappy Old West/Mandarin dialogue)?

    I could even see Firefly going the way of BSG in many many years, where the story gets rebooted in the future. In that scenario, though, I’d probably end up as the old cranky fan who bewails the changes to my beloved story, while a new generation of Browncoats thinks that, I dunno, Shepherd Book was always supposed to be a robot.

  • http://pearlrose86.livejournal.com/ Maggie

    Yeah, that’s pretty much what I’m thinking also. Either a reboot, or new stories (and new characters), set in the same universe.

  • Anonymous

    As much as I am a Browncoat at heart…everything comes to an end. Firefly came to an end. It’s time to let it rest in peace.

  • Anonymous

    I think I said something about it in the last Firefly-related article, but I’d think the disappointing box office numbers for Serenity probably killed any chance a long time ago. I’d think it would be very hard to convince any network or online distributors to give the show another chance given that the big, hyped up reunion didn’t do very well financially.

    That and as someone else already said here, scheduling would probably be a nightmare given that some of the actors have moved on to other projects.

  • http://bytestemplar.com/ Fortyseven

    I wouldn’t mind seeing more things set in the Firefly universe, at any rate. Even if it doesn’t directly involve the regular cast. It’s a big ‘verse. Why not? :)

  • http://offthemall.org/ Bryant Turnage

    Agreed, I would like to see more of the ‘verse that Whedon envisioned, and it’s probably the only way for us to actually get any more Firefly outside of the comics. That said, I can’t imagine Joss having enough time for anything more than an honorary executive producer credit or something, which leaves it as a big gamble as to the final quality.

  • Anonymous

    I adore Firefly. I watch it twice a year and just love everything connected to it, but the show is over. It’s done. It’s time to get on with our lives. Whedon is Marvel’s number one guy and they’re not letting him go. Plus, Nathan Fillion is on Castle, and everyone else is probably on a new project or not interested anymore. Just stop building false hope. I’d love a come back too, but it’s not meant to be.

  • http://the-nerdmuffin.tumblr.com/ Sara Goodwin

    I refuse to give up hope! My hope isn’t hurting anyone, dangit! I don’t care if I’m in a gorram nursing home of old age and they have to resurrect the actors via DNA science to play the roles …. Not. Giving. Up. :-)

  • Suzanne Larsen

    I’d take a Shepherd Book prequel mini-series

  • http://twitter.com/tetisheri1972 tetisheri

    The problem with any sequel is that most of the actors and Joss all have great careers, and for Firefly to come back they would all have to wreck those careers. I think, realistically, the best we can hope for is another movie, sometime after Avengers 2.

    Until then, the comics are great.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi
  • rainbow goddess

    This is probably equivalent to blasphemy on a sci-fi fandom page, but I’m not really into comics. Think there’s any chance of tie-in novels?

  • http://technicalluddite.com/ Hannele Kormano

    It’s true, the comics don’t quite feel the same! For me, the pacing just feels too fleeting.

  • http://the-nerdmuffin.tumblr.com/ Sara Goodwin

    I’ll take them as Futurama heads-in-a-jar if that’s the only way it’s going to happen! :-)

  • http://technicalluddite.com/ Hannele Kormano

    This. And it would probably feel different, but I think it’s a necessary thing (Camelot, and all that).

  • Nat

    It was ten years ago and we had a great ride. Hope is always good to have but I think Serenity left the crew off in a place that lets us imagine what shenanigans they’re getting up to. This far after the fact, any new live action material would just feel strange and not the same.
    And let’s be quite honest — We all saw what happened with Buffy and Angel in the later seasons and how off the rails they both went when Joss focused on Firefly. I never want to see that happen to Firefly. Joss is not a writer for multi-season, long arc tales and I think Buffy showed that.

  • Amanda Morse

    They’d have to do that for Wash anyhow!

  • Thomas Hayes

    All things must come to an end. I accepted that of Star Trek when Enterprise ended in 2005. Holding out hope that Firefly could come back a decade after cancellation when all involved with the series have moved onto other things, the series got low ratings in the first place (I know there are many mitigating circumstances for this but it still happened) and the film didn’t quite make back its budget (not to mention it wrapped up a major plot and killed off two characters) seems illogical under the circumstances.

    Red Dwarf is the only modern sci-fi series I know of to have come back after a hiatus this long, but not only did that have far longer to make an impression (eight series) in the first place, it had the advantage of having a much smaller cast (who weren’t all busy doing other things), being a smaller-scale show and a sitcom, thus being cheap enough that the Dave channel in Britain could take the risk of reviving it. I never held out any hopes that Red Dwarf would be back but it’s like a nice bonus – not something I’d been pinning my hopes on. Firefly would be an order of magnitude harder to pull off.

  • Laura Truxillo

    I always kind of wanted fans to finally let this one go. Heck, after we got Serenity I almost kind of wished we hadn’t (I liked it as a Western with Sci-Fi bits, not a Sci-Fi with Western bits). More than that, though…

    Firefly just captured lightning in a bottle. There was something about those people at that time, some kind of chemistry that you can’t even plan for, you just feel glad when it gels. You can’t do it on purpose. And to try and do it ten (or even five) years after the fact, well…none of those people are the same people they were ten years ago. The chemistry would be different. Maybe as good. But probably…not.

    I would like to see there be more comics, though.

  • Laura Truxillo

    I am a huge comics fan, but most of the tie-ins I didn’t like as much. Part of it, I think, was that they tried to go very realistic and rendered for the artwork. Which isn’t a bad thing, but when you have actual live-and-moving actors to compare it to, it comes off as static and, well, as you say, oddly paced.

    The Chris Samnee comic, the one about Book’s past, though. I found that to be pretty good. Not on the same levels as Darkwing Duck in terms of “I FEEL LIKE I’M WATCHING THE SHOW AGAIN!” but still really well done.

  • Laura Truxillo

    Man, that would’ve been great if the Firefly cast had shown up as heads-in-a-jar for Futurama.

  • Nick Gaston

    Well hey, Star Trek came back after 18 years…the first two years weren’t very good, granted, but it got better again!

    …and two out of the three subsequent spin-off series’ pretty much ran the franchise into the ground, true. And, frankly, between you and me, I still have some issues with many aspects of the third one’s execution. But it’s still a good track record, overall! And that’s not counting the movies!

    …well, okay, the first half of the movie series only got better after they kicked the original creator upstairs because of his increasingly spacy ideas, like insisting they do a story where the Enterprise goes back in time to save/kill Kennedy. And there was still ST V. And the SECOND half of the movie series basically ran it all into the ground, again. And the last two REBOOT movies may, for all their flaws, might actually be the best that CAN be salvaged out of the franchise by now…

    But damnit, I’m still up for “Firefly: The Next Generation” in seven years!

  • http://twitter.com/meliciousness Melynda

    The time has come and gone for anymore on-screen Firefly. People have either moved on or outgrown their parts. It would be nice to see them all do something else together. You can’t deny that cast’s chemistry.

  • Anonymous

    At this point a reunion of the original crew would be a disaster worse than the Star Wars prequels.

    But a new crew, in a new ship with new challenges would be great. Maybe some of the old crew could have occasional cameos in logical places they might have ended up. Jane as muscle for a criminal boss like Badger. Kaylee working on another ship, or running a mechanic shop somewhere. Mal & Zoe on another ship that they current characters don’t like or compete with, allowing occasional cameos (like the intro to DS9).

    But it would have to be a different ship with different goals. Maybe an Alliance ship, or an explorer crew scouting new planets (without being all perfect like Star Trek). Maybe some miners, or outright pirates.

    Or maybe I should just move on with my life.

  • Suzanne Larsen

    ah, rock on, thank you!

  • Jennifer Faucher

    Inara did.

  • Jennifer Faucher

    Season 6: Episode “All the Presidents’ Heads”

  • Anonymous

    At the most, what I’d like to see is something like an X-mas special reunion (Netflix – make it so!) for the 15th anniversary in 2017, including Christina “Mrs Reynolds” Hendricks and Wash and Book as apparitions in River’s mind or something.

    It’s been too long, we have the movie, and lives have moved on. We can’t catch lightning in a bottle. If you love something, let it go.
    But like I said, a special reunion and after that a spin-off TNG would be AWESOME!!!! (*immediately starts obsessing over this instead*)

  • Anonymous

    Voicing the same opinion as lots of people, I’d like to see something in the same universe with new characters. Perhaps a series exploring the fallout of the events surrounding the film. A nice “tense” setting where war could start up again any moment. The original cast could be built up as “legends” in some form and drop in if they ever felt the need.

  • Anonymous

    I’m almost glad to hear it, though it’s hard to let go of the dream too. Firefly should have gone on to longevity on TV (every time I remember that Star Trek Voyager got seven seasons and Firefly didn’t even get one I have to go and have a quiet sit down in a darkened room).

    But that’s not something that can be fixed now. Too much time has passed, any attempt to recreate the lightning-in-a-bottle that was Firefly would be pretty inevitably be at best disappointing, and at worst actually spoil what we already have of it. We had our miracle in the form of the movie

    One of the few things you have as Firefly fan over many other fandoms is that the series never lived to let itself down. Just think – at least we never had to mentally write off Firefly: Revolutions or Firefly: Nemesis.

    Firefly gets to be that perfect and full of potential forever.

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking that. Some kind of coda would be nice. We’ve already had the 10-year anniversary, but some kind of marker to look in on the characters lives and see some of the stuff that happened might be cool.

    I commented above I’m partly glad Firefly is getting to remain perfect, not be spoiled like other franchises that have had weak revivals or late instalments. And maybe even something like short webisodes would be too much, but if anyone could pulll it off successfully to give everyone closure to the story, it’s the Firefly creator, creatives and cast

  • Anonymous

    :D I do that: have an idea that I think would be cool, and then I obssess over something that is never going to happen, if just for the reason that the people in charge of the franchise are very unlikely to have the same idea or inclination. My latest obsessive daydream, not unrelated to your idea, is ‘what if they got Joss Whedon to reboot St:TNG as a tv series’. The idea is getting pretty fleshed out in my mind….

    It’s interesting to compare the paths of Firefly and Star Trek. They start out similarly (a ratings-poor tv series rebooted into a motion picture). They diverge because ST:TMP was financially successful (though poor) and Serentiy didn’t make a lot of money (though it was awesome). So if Firefly had taken an equivalent path from there, w’d have had three more ‘Firefly’ movies, a short-lived cartoon, and ‘Firefly: The Next Generation’ would be starting on TV this year.

    In some alternate universe…

  • Anonymous

    Not sure, but I think that may be the darkest time line…

  • Anonymous

    :D Does that mean all the characters would have little beards?

  • Anonymous

    It’s dead, Jim…

  • Thomas Hayes

    I’d be up for a sequel series too, I’d have to guess it would be more feasible than a relaunch. However the spectre of the original’s low ratings coupled Serenity’s lack of financial success would still hang over that possibility. *shrug* Not a film/tv expert, maybe they could do it, I just don’t see it happening.

  • Thomas Hayes

    I could take this moment to remind you that Star Trek : Enterprise got four seasons, got higher ratings than Firefly did when both series were running (Source: Wiki page for Firefly states viewer average of 4.7million while Wiki page for Enterprise season 2 shows all but one episode screened in 2000 above that number) and outlived Firefly by two and a half years…

    Sorry. Hope that darkened room is nice.

    Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed the last season of Enterprise, but I’d gladly exchange the whole damn thing for a single full season of Firefly. Enterprise’s first two seasons and plenty of the third make for almost cringeworthy viewing today while Firefly seems almost ageless.

  • Anonymous

    As much as I would love to see more of the original Firefly,
    with its original cast, I don’t think I would enjoy the results even if it did
    happen.

    But I would love to see more of the ‘verse. See, perhaps the
    kids of the original characters, and cameos by the actors who made us love it
    so much.

  • Patrick McCormack

    Mal’s crew will do just fine! All this heart ache over age is for not. All aboard kiddos…youngins spruce the place up. You betcha…the “chain of ruttin command” needs up-n-coming leadership. But…command doesn’t hand over the reins just cause Mal and Zoe get older. Families like the one on Serenity sweeten with age. More importantly, when times come calling…grandma and grandpa give out wallups just as good as those half their age. Our Imagination and real lives should mirror what we want from Firefly. Living a life of Serenity…ain’t so bad. And, it may be what’s needed as the world gets rougher and tougher. Cheers

  • David

    As much as I would like to see it come back it is in reality been way too long. If an after story would to be done I would like to see Summer as the 1st officer with Bruce Campbell as the new Capt. after Fillion has died. Would be nice to see Jane back. The Dr. would still have to be around, and would be nice to see Christina back. But other roles could be implemented and the blue hand can still be a menace.
    I would only see this working with Bruce as a replacement, As the King of Camp he would be the perfect fill in, but that is prolly long past a thought as well.

  • Mother Joker

    I’m in a dark room with your mom.

  • kamikazeblonde

    Alan Tudyk spoke at the Emerald City Comic Con this past weekend and basically said the same thing. It was a wonderful experience that has inspired and brought joy to lots of people, but it has run its course. The original cast is all too old for a prequel and they are enjoying the new stages in their careers that Firefly made possible for all of them.

    A reboot would almost be sacrilegious, but more stories in that same universe could be cool.

    Sometimes, you have to love something for what it is, and not for what you want it to be.

  • SCP3

    At this point, comics are probably the best route for more Firefly.