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X-Men: Days Of Future Past And The Summers Brothers Conundrum

When Lucas Till appeared in X-Men: First Class as Havok, fans everywhere felt a fluttering of hope that the two Summers brothers (Havok and Cyclops) might be reunited in some lovingly fan-servicey future where Cyclops doesn’t die and there weren’t forty years separating First Class from the first X-Men title.

Well, mutants, you might have a chance.

Bryan Singer, director of X-Men 1 and 2, has apparently said that he wants to “wants to fix a few things”, according to Vulture’s interview with Cyclops actor James Marsden. “Hopefully,” Marsden continued, “[Cyclops' death] is one of them.”

Considering that time travel is rumored to be a large part of the plot for Days of Future Past, that’s not out of the question. Marsden has also said he’d be open to donning the Cyclops shades once more if the opportunity presented itself. Do you hear that, Singer? You can undo the terrible events of X-Men 3!

Till, meanwhile, is already confirmed in the upcoming movie and has filmed his part.

I didn’t get to spend that much time with Bryan [Singer]. But I loved working with him because he let me reinvent the way I do my power. It’s what I wanted to do on the last movie but because there are so many things working against you, you kind of just have to do what they provide for you with the pre-visualization because that is a lot more money than my paycheck. So I had to kind of incorporate with what they had already done. But I wanted to do it differently and they let me on this one. Which is cool because I’m actually an X-Men fan. So getting to bring something into the movie and feeling like I was actually part of making this movie is one of the coolest feelings that I’ve ever had.

His answer as to whether or not we will see the Summers brothers together on film was interesting, to say the least: “You’ll have to watch and find out, my friend.” Such a cryptic answer begs questions.

It looks more and more like DOFP will be the perfect tool to re-build the X-Men cinematic universe out of the rubble of the third movie. Magneto and Rogue can be re-powered, Professor X and Cyclops can be revived, and the cast of First Class can join rest of the cast in the post-2000s era. Time-traveling shenanigans are an oft-abused storytelling mechanic, but maybe this time they can do some real good for a franchise that needs it.

Marsden seems to agree:

It was great, to have a movie like… the first two or three X-Men, and the studios in Hollywood work really hard to find a formula that’s successful, and you want to keep that intact, so…

From your mouth to the studio’s ears, Marsden. Let’s hope it becomes a reality.

(via MTV, image from X-Men Legacy #259)

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  • Anonymous

    I don’t think the issue with Havok itself needs to be addressed. All it’d take is just establishing that he’s Scott’s uncle or something in the timeline.

    As for Cyclops dying, I’m torn because well…as sucky as his death was, movie Cyclops wasn’t terribly interesting. Even less so than his comic counterpart.

  • Anonymous

    Have you read any X-men in the last two or three years? I’m not asking to be snide, I’m legitimately curious. Because IMHO what they’ve been doing with Cyclops in the comics is amazing. I could definitely see people hating it, but I don’t know why anyone would say it wasn’t interesting.

  • Anonymous

    I have, and I think they’ve made Cyclops interesting precisely because they’re finally doing something with him other than “square-jawed leader guy”.

    Joss Whedon’s run had an absolutely brilliant bit of meta where Emma Frost explains why Scott isn’t terribly well-liked, and it sort of sums up all the problems he had in the film. He’s just the standard leader guy on a team that has a swashbuckling German who looks like the devil, a berserker Samurai with a shady past and knives in his fists, a Kenyan weather goddess with a mohawk and leather fetish, a blue gorilla who can quote Shakespeare, and a spunky computer genius who can walk through walls. Comparatively, he’s just…average.

    So I think actually having him in a position where he’s on the run and branded a militant terrorist has actually done wonders for him.

  • Anonymous

    In the character’s (and Marsden’s) defense, they haven’t tried to do much of anything with him. The first 2 films were mostly Wolverine’s story and the 3rd, which was about the Phoenix saga and therefor should have featured a lot of him and Jansen, changed hands and didn’t served either of them particularly well. Cyclops was interesting in that saga because he was a tragic hero, not the guy who has everything.

  • ACF

    I like Havok, but the character I really want to see brought forward in time is Emma Frost.

  • Anonymous

    Completely agree.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps with a different actress though. Rosamund Pike would be excellent.

  • Lady Viridis

    Sounds interesting. I don’t generally follow comics except when recommended, so… what’s the series/issue run where I can read this storyline?

  • Lady Viridis

    Oh yes, please. I don’t particularly care about Cyclops or Havoc, but I will take any excuse to retcon X-3 out of continuity.

  • Anonymous

    Schism (limited series)
    Uncanny X-men vol. 2: #1-20
    Avengers vs. X-men (limited series)
    All New X-men: #1-5
    Uncanny X-men vol. 3: #1-9

  • ItsAnt

    James Marsden character as Cyclops was definitely downplayed in all three movies, Yo’d expect him to be the poweful character he’s always been for the past fifty plus years but they made him weak, jealous, and forgettable. I was shocked when they had him die in X3. In all the comics, it was Scott and Jean’s love that kept her fighting for control of the Phoenix, not Wolverine. He should have been a principal character in the story. I would have been content with him being put a telekinetic coma by Jean but not dead. The producers have allowed too much bullshit to be put out in the X-Men. They’re so quick to make a movie for money that they continue to piss fans off. If Havok and Cyclops are brought together that would be dope but they need to be brothers, not cousins, uncle and nephew, father and son, they need to be brother. I agree with adapting certain aspects of the X-Men universe for film but you can’t just change important aspects of the character. Making Havok anything other than Cyclops brother is like Making Storm australian or making Psylocke turn invisible (which they did SMH), or turning Mystique green.

  • Angry And Yellow

    Definitely recommend the most recent run of Uncanny X-Men and All New X-Men. Brian Michael Bendis’s work has been amazing.

  • Angry And Yellow

    Don’t get your hopes up. They’re just going to hurt us again…

  • Gary Keyes

    I never liked the way Cyke was portrayed in the films. I don’t Marsden for this, he’s just going by the script. The Scott Summers I grew up reading was not this dorky ‘kid’ with optic blast. My Cyclops (especially the Byrne/Claremont version) was a well trained, excellent leader and TRUE LOVE to Jean Grey; that’s why I always had lukewarm feelings towards the X men film franchise.

  • Gary Keyes

    Agree. It’s one of my big fears about H’wood adapting our favorite characters and stories. On the surface, it seems like heaven to have these iconic characters come to life on the big screen. The downside is how any peticular filmmaker(s) can radically change who they are to “fit” some off kilter concept they may have. I’m not a fan of directors of writers who were not ‘really into comics’ but like them now because____ (fill in the blank). Whedon gets pass here because he read the books and respects the source material. Wolverine (Jackman) replaced Scott (Marsden) so to speak because of the character’s popularity then (and now) and Jackman’s own acting chops and hunky features didn’t hurt. Save for the Avengers, few of these superhero movies have come close to the best stuff on the pages that I read as a kid and still do as an adult.

  • Rachel Banzhaf

    There was an X-Men 3? I must have started blocking those out earlier than I thought…

  • Lady Viridis

    Wow. 5 different books/series. Way to make that simple and not confusing, Marvel! >_>

    I’ll look into it.

  • Lady Viridis

    Bendis’ writing is one of the big reasons I loved Ultimate Spider-Man so much. I’ll have to check this out.

  • Angry And Yellow

    I don’t think that Cyclops got interesting as a character until after the 12 saga and that little bit of merging he did with Apocalypse. Until then he was a generic boy scout that made some pretty questionable life decisions (marrying Jean’s clone, abandoning his wife and child, etc). His encounter with Apocalypse gave the character an edge that was interesting to explore, not to mention that it lead to his current relationship w/ Emma Frost. I like the idea that Jean was the love of his life, but that he went through something that he felt he couldn’t share or that she wouldn’t understand. Emma, for all her faults, has always accepted Cyclops for who and what he is. Flawed characters in flawed relationships make for great stories.

    As for Havoc, meh. He’ll always be Cyke’s lil brother to me, nothing more. Though that crap he said about not wanting to be called a mutant in Uncanny Avengers rubbed me the wrong way.

  • Uncle Deadly

    My guess is they want to do two X-Men series, one set in the past and one set in the present. This movie can fix the issues and allow them to move forward with that.

  • Anonymous

    They can bring back Cyclops, but I doubt they will see each other … there was an oficial pic of Havoc in what looks to be a Vietnam base, so I have doubts he will survive this one

  • Ryan Colson

    ….but Xavier lived at the end of x3, mags was getting repowered, and both are fine in wolvie, so we all knew rogue was powered, too..and mystique as well…and xmfc confirmed Alex and Scott are brothers on the special features. Guess op missed lotsa clues?

  • Ryan Colson

    2-3?? All that’s been spinning from junk from Grant ‘s 2000 run, and even before that, when he was Apocalops…

  • Ryan Colson

    I’d hazard that all new is weak, every x fan I know dropped it fast. Bendis hasn’t been great in awhile.

  • Anonymous

    True, there are roots into that, but it really came to a head in the last two or three years. Schism is the point where he really became the new Magneto.

  • Anonymous

    Most of these didn’t run concurrently, though AvX tied into almost all of the Avengers and X books at the time.

  • Aeryl

    That’s been my hope since I heard Singer was coming back on board. Especially once I heard the name of the movie.