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Gotham Cops Comic Creators Respond to Gotham Cops TV Show Reveal

In case you missed it, we’re finally getting a show about cops in Gotham City, but it’s not going to be based on Gotham Central and I found that confusing.

So did a lot of other folks, according to the creators of the critically acclaimed comic series, Ed Brubaker and Greg Rucka, who sent a wave of congratulations in the direction of the two writers.

Brubaker tweeted:

Rucka took the time to address the concerns and congratulations of fans at a bit more length on his Tumblr.

1. I was as surprised and delighted as everyone to hear they were making a “young Gordon” cop show.

2. As far as I know, this has nothing to do with Gotham Central.

3. If it did have anything to do with Gotham Central, that wouldn’t matter, because DC owns the rights and the characters, as they should. This was work-for-hire, something all of us knew at the start.

4. I have not been contacted by anyone involved.

5. I would be delighted to be contacted by anyone involved ;)

6. I wish FOX and DC Entertainment success with the show.

That’s it. No drama, no trauma.

The biggest difference between Gotham and Gotham Central that we know so far is that Gotham will take place before Bruce Wayne begins his work as Batman, indicating perhaps that while one of Gotham Central major themes was the complicated relationship between Gotham City police and the world of superheroics, Gotham will be focusing on some other aspect of cop drama in a superhero world.

(via Comic

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  • Anonymous

    Rucka is a class act.

  • WheelchairNinja

    Of course this new show won’t be based on Gotham Central. DC might pull a few themes or plot points from various comics to use in their movies, ultimately don’t take their own source material seriously. It’s almost as if they’re ashamed of the comics and try to refer to them as little as possible.

    That’s assuming this show is ever actually produced. Go look up failed Aquaman,The Graysons, and Raven shows.

  • Anonymous

    Well, that’s comic adaptations in general. There’s a lot of stuff that seems fine to fans that would just seem stupid or too silly for a general audience. Even for all the acclaim Avengers gets, they certainly realized Hawkeye’s comic outfit is ridiculous, for instance. Or Bucky not being a kid sidekick in a mask and tights. And a lot of other examples.

    That’s just the nature of adaptations.

  • Laura Truxillo

    I have to admit, losing the superhero/villain angle entirely seems a shame, but nice of Brubaker to be so positive about it. Class act, always.

  • Lindsey Stock

    Why is it going to be on Fox instead of the CW like Arrow and the Flash spin-off? It seems like it would be troublesome to them to have multiple shows running on different channels.

  • WheelchairNinja

    Yes, but Marvel movies will lift entire plotlines from the comics: Extremis for Iron Man 3, The Winter Soldier for Captain America 2, and Days of Future Past for X-Men First Class 2, which isn’t even a Marvel Studios movie. Even as far back as Spider-Man 2, which is basically Spider-Man No More, they’ve been incredibly faithful to the source material while still making in work in a modern movie format.

    Compare that with DC: The Dark Knight Rises is an original story that frankensteins together parts of Knightfall, The Dark Knight Returns, and No Man’s Land. Which comics stories does Man of Steel draw from? New 52 and parts of Birthright, maybe?

  • Anonymous

    Or they could give the general audiences enough credit that they’ll be able to roll with the idiosyncracies carried over from one medium to the next. It seemed to work out pretty well for LotR & Sin City.
    Hawkeye’s classic costume is no more ridiculous than the movie costume. His comic costume was Renaissance Faire-inspired because Black Widow recruited him straight from the circus to fight Iron Man. In the Avengers movie, there is zero explanation of why Hawkeye gets his own costume. It doesn’t look like a standard SHIELD navy uniform. Even if SHIELD had a special uniform for an archery division, putting giant maroon arrows on their fronts is tactically unsound. So neither costume makes sense in context of the movie. In a choice between them, I’d rather have the purple one one with aloincloth & proto-Wolverine mask because at least it’s memorable.

  • Fisty

    DC talking to their best authors and coordinating for excellent film & TV? Not gonna happen.

  • Anonymous

    LOTR makes sense because you’re seeing an inherent fantasy environment where the gaudy outfits make sense. If you have Hawkeye working as a SHIELD agent there’s really no logical reason for him to be running around in purple tights. That and it just looks dumb and the actor playing him said it looked dumb as well.

    I think the mistake fandom makes is that it conflates all sorts of all fantasy-style elements and acts as though just because audiences accept one bit, then it must mean that you can go all out and bring in everything. For instance I can accept the symbolism of Captain America’s outfit while still breathing a sigh of relief that they didn’t bring in Hawkeye’s purple nightmare.

  • Anonymous

    If they really wanted the classic Hawkeye costume, they could’ve rationalized it by having Loki make him wear something more Asgardian because he thinks that having poorly dressed thralls reflects badly upon him.
    But just because movie Hawkeye was dressed more boring doesn’t mean they made the character more realistic. How did that rotating quiver (a movie addition) know exactly what kind of arrow he needed each time? How can he perfectly hit a target without looking where he’s aiming? Why is archery a skill that makes him more qualified to go into battle alongside the Avengers over any other SHIELD agent (besides BW)?
    As long as they underatnd they’ll be watching an over the top fantasy film, most audiences are fine with superficial outlandishness so long as their suspensions of disbelief aren’t otherwise broken.

  • Anonymous

    Because maybe his costume just looked stupid. Like seriously there’s no need to have him running around in that just because it’s what he wears in the comics. The biggest strength of the Marvel films has been that they’ve wisely chosen to keep the parts of the comics that work while jettisoning the parts that would be too silly for a mainstream audience.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Yeah, it always results in terrible disaster when an adaption of a comic book does not follow the source material to exact fine detail. Thats why Iron Man 3 was a commercial disaster for its depiction of the Mandarin and why Avengers 2 is doomed to end in flames since it wont have Hank Pym creating Ultron. A movie featuring Ultron that does not include all the heroes dying and time travel being used to magically reset everything in the end is doomed to fail~!!!

  • Ryan Colson

    Mostly true, but the fan designed Photoshop of movie Hawkeye in Ultimate glasses with 616esque pointed lens corners to reference his original comic design suit would have worked in the movie. Instead you get the Ultimate suit minus eyepieces for the movie suit and that suit becoming the comic suit due to Marvel dumbing up comic costumes to reference the film versions across the line.
    And dumb comic parts still work on the film, remember how Cap’s shield bounces back even though that is probably the silliest comic science ever?

  • Ryan Colson

    (Since if it absorbs all impact, the shield would fall to the ground after hitting one target)

  • WheelchairNinja

    Iron Man 3 made over $1.2 Billion. Not sure I’d call that a commercial disaster. Yeah, it ticked off the fanboys, but everyone I talked about it with offline loved it.

    And sorry, but I trust Whedon to know what he’s doing with Avengers 2. I’ll admit I don’t know much about Ultron, but I hope that last last bit was sarcasm. A deus ex machina ending like that would be awful.

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Oh my, that almost sounds like Marvel ‘might pull a few themes or plot points from various comics to use in
    their movies, ultimately don’t take their own source material seriously.
    It’s almost as if they’re ashamed of the comics and try to refer to
    them as little as possible.’ Funny that.

  • WheelchairNinja

    Sigh… Marvel is pulling their stories from the comics. They have to change some of the details to fit the movie format, update some of the character like Bucky who won’t work for modern audiences, but by and large they’re adapting the comics.

    DC, on the other hand, glosses over the comics and instead adapts the characters. Their movies sometimes borrow elements from the comics’ plots (see my above post about The Dark Knight Rises), but are largely original stories.

    Now, before this becomes a full-on flame war, I’d like to extend the olive branch in the form of this adorable kitten .gif: ;-)

  • Nuuni Nuunani

    Either I have just discovered rudolph or the recording of that kitten keeps turning its nose red O.o