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Amanda Age 30: We Should All Be Ashamed of 2013


Editor’s Note: as 2013 drew to a close, we asked contributing writer Amanda LaPergola to sum the year’s geekiest highlights in an entertaining and timely fashion.  We emphasized the timely part for her benefit.  That was almost two months ago.  It is now nearly the end of January, and Amanda still won’t answer any of our texts.

However, this morning a mysterious package arrived at Mary Sue headquarters.  Its contents included what appeared to be a note from Amanda’s mom (“Dear Miss Sue: Please excuse my daughter’s tardiness.  She has recently begun The Master Cleanse, and every time she goes near paper, she tries to eat it.”) and the following pages…


Amanda LaPergola is a New York City-based cater-waiter who enjoys writing in her spare time.  She tweets @LaPergs, which is how she also stalks ex-boyfriends. #someday

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  • http://www.seeknewtravel.com/ Kit Whelan

    Community kicked off 2014 with the Lava Floor episode, so things are looking up!

  • Kerry Dolan Timony

    I <3 Amanda sooooo much for drawing Annie and Shirley saying "Awwwww" together.

  • Anonymous

    Never before have I watched an episode of television that was that funny and that heartbreaking at the same time. I’m so happy Harmon is back :D

  • Alice Ruppert

    I agree that the new season is awesome so far, but I think people usually hate on S4 more far than necessary.
    Especially Dan Harmon himself. Remember, he compared watching S4 to “seeing your family get raped on a beach”. Not cool, bro.

  • Amanda LaPergola

    Oh man, one of my friends that I have known since college is moving to the West Coast in two weeks, and that episode hit my right in the feels. And, yes. I am deliriously happy that Dan Harmon is back. He is an angry, angry angel.

  • Cordo_Roxen

    I am just so happy Janelle Monae got a mention here. I saw her twice in concert in 2013 and the fact that she isn’t more well known is a shame. She is an incredible artist, singer, dancer and entertainer.

  • Anonymous

    “the fact that she isn’t more well known is a shame”

    … So I’m likely not the only reader whose reaction was “… W-who?”

  • Cordo_Roxen
  • Anonymous

    Yeah, 2013 was pretty lame-toast. That said, it was also the year I discovered Sleepy Hollow and Arrow, so that’s pretty cool.

  • Lia Hansen

    It was also the year with the lowest child death rate in recorded history. Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

  • karina

    You know there were several reasons why 2013 sucked…but none of these were on my list. I feel sorry for batwoman (Say Yes to marriage equality)…and I have a new comic (Glory) to check out….but NONE of these would still make my list as to why the year sucked.

    I would say more important was the further attempt by our government to destroy our constitution, the failure of the GMO labeling initiative in Washington State…and things that affect RL

    I’m a huge Geek and I love my fandoms….but as cute as this was…I kinda wished there was something of actual importance in there.

    PS….someone tweeting about their junk in social media….does not constitute making this year better. Just saying.

  • Amanda LaPergola

    Thank you for the thoughtful feedback; I do agree about many of these issues. Attention must be paid to the stuff that happens in RL and how it affects our community and let that spur us towards actions that will affect positive change.

    I did try to keep it light in my review because this is largely a pop-culture-related website, and I am a big doofus who giggles at the toilet humor in “Adventure Time”. However, your point is valid. In fact, I take your comment so seriously that I am going to focus on it and ignore any of the supportive, positive comments on this page, because that is how the creative mind functions. See you guys in seven months!

  • Sarah Dompkowski

    I’m comforted by the fact Pacific Rim made a lot internationally, breaking movie records in China. Hollywood is paying attention to international markets more so than they have in the past.
    Plus, awful things have to happen to Will so he can have his triumphant revenge and Hannibal can finally be caught and convicted. I like that they didn’t pull the “he figured it out and then got stabbed and that’s how he caught Hannibal” thing from the book and the movie, I liked that they gave it their own twist for the tv show. And now it makes more sense that after Hannibal is dealt with, Will is gonna quit the FBI. You wouldn’t wanna work with the people who believed you were a serial killer, after all.

  • Anonymous

    I heart JMo! <3 She was even more amazing in concert than on record! I didn't think it was possible! :D

  • Anonymous

    Warehouse 13 ends this year, and it doesn’t look good for Myka and HG. So already 2014 has a strike against it.

  • Anonymous

    I have a feeling that you can get a legitimate list of reasons for while 2013 sucked in real life from blogs about real life. I know I certainly do. Nearly every blog I read is filled with reasons for why 2013 sucked in real life. The fact that this one light-hearted segment about video games, comic books, and dork fandom didn’t rehash them for me isn’t bothering me. I have 20 other blogs to tell me about black people getting shot while trying to get help, unrepentant rapists being supported by small football-loving communities, LGBT Nigerians being whipped and stoned in public, American politicians sneering at gay men dying of AIDS, rivers being polluted by a company’s toxic chemical spills while the CEO of said company and his wife act like they’re the real victims, celebrities engaging in casual racism, and the largest commercial sporting event in the world funding a country that has beaten its citizens bloody in the streets while its corporate sponsors say “lol that’s life”.

    I don’t need The Mary Sue’s “Amanda Age 30″ to give me REAL reasons for why 2013 blew chunks. And I assume that someone as well informed as you probably doesn’t need it from this segment either.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Is that really the kind of list you expected out of cartoon drawings on TheMarySue.com?

    Edit: Idris Elba’s tweet DID make my year better. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with Community is Dan Harmon not knowing what he wants. Read what he said when he got kicked off the show. He said he messed up when he stopped making it about Jeff and started doing gimmick episodes. Is the Lava episode good, did you like the middle one more than you thought, or is Dan wrong?

  • Anonymous

    Patience – soon she will be on sesame Street, and all will change.

  • Anonymous

    For god’s sake, let’s not accidentally have a moment of joy while there’s still so much sadness in the world.
    I understand There’s a sale on hair shirts at macy’s.

  • Tina

    See I’m always going to remember 2013 as the year that Breaking Bad ended and more often than not left me screaming into pillows at 3am in the morning (because iTunes never updates before midnight) The loss of my favorite series could be a good or a bad thing in hindsight, but man was it a hell of a ride.

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    He did apologize for that. Not that he should have said it to begin with (Harmon in particular needs to learn how to think before he says some stuff), but his apology was far more sincere to me than most people who make casual references to rape. … But yeah, people are just a little too harsh on season four considering how bad it COULD have been.

  • http://www.mfdestiny.com/ Burritomadness

    I miss fearless defenders :(

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    Not to mention Lone Ranger got nominated for an Oscar in make-up. THE MOVIE BEST KNOWN FOR REDFACE COULD BE AWARDED BY THE ACADEMY FOR BEST MAKEUP. Unbelievable.

  • Faradn

    Community wouldn’t exist without Dan Harmon, so it’s hard to think how he could be what’s wrong with it–unless the show is bad overall. I suppose that’s a valid viewpoint. Not one I ascribe to though.

  • karina

    No but that doesn’t mean that I can’t be honest about my reaction.

  • karina

    I was just making a point. Did I say she was wrong? No not really, only that I disagreed. I love the attack mob on this page for just sharing my opinion.

  • karina

    I really wasn’t intending it as an attack…though everyone else seems to have taken it that way. I was mainly commenting on the fact that so many people ignore the larger issues in the world.

  • karina

    For God’s sake apparently its a travesty to be honest about an opinion based on your comment.

  • Anonymous

    When the conversation is about science fiction and epic selfies, and you begin to share your opinions about GMO labeling, yes, it’s a travesty, or at the very least, a sign that you’re far more keen about what you want to talk about..

    “Sometimes if they don’t have their own personal tragedies to cash in, they’ll just point to some nebulous sadness (“I don’t know how you can find this pie fight funny when there are children in Africa who are starving and would be HAPPY to eat that pie”), cluck their tongues like so many hens and watch disapprovingly for people to realise what callous boors they’ve been.”

    http://itrd.blogspot.com/2011/11/comedy-is-funny-when-its-not-happening.html

  • karina

    I was just being honest and sharing an opinion…not a travesty. I’m sorry I didn’t find it as amusing as the rest of you. However, first amendment and all, I have just as much right to my opinions as the self righteous. I was just being honest and I’m sorry some people can’t chill enough to take a comment for what it is…an honest opinion on a topic….

    but no some people have to go clucking about how much they hate someone else’s opinion because they don’t agree with it….aka you.

    Now I’m sorry if I incidentally offended someone. I honestly didn’t think people would get so up in arms about an honest opinion. My bad. I guess honesty and sincerity about a topic is a crime now.

  • http://www.thenerdybird.com/ Jill Pantozzi

    Giving a reaction is fine, but yours sounded a lot like the usual derailing tactic we see on this site. Writing, “as cute as this was…I kinda wished there was something of actual importance in there,” sounds a lot like, “why are you angry about x,y,z representation issue in comics when there are people starving in the world?”

    We’re a pop-culture website and while we occasionally touch on larger world issues, we’d like to think our readers know what we’re about. So when one pointedly issues a negative reaction to something CLEARLY meant for fun we have to wonder what you were expecting from such a post on this particular site? You could have simply written what would have made your list instead of saying this one fell short because it didn’t mark “important” events.

    And I didn’t expect you to agree about the Elba tweet, just giving my perspective since your comment on that bit was quite generalized.

  • Anonymous

    But you WEREN’T giving an opinion on a topic – you were complaining that they OP wasn’t talking about the things that YOU thought she should talk about, completely ignoring the fact that this is a pop-culture site, and a funny one at that, and the number of times GMOs were discussed may reach as high as zero before you came along.

    And I missed it where anyone was saying you weren’t allowed to post what you wanted, just that we, almost in toto, found it pompous, preachy and simply out of phase with both the tone of the post and the site.

    I’ve yet to actually discuss the issue of GMOs with you at all, merely the non-sequitur nature of its inclusion, the hubris of thinking that anyone reading a post about comics being cancelled and Idris Elba’s Special Purpose should instead be better spending their time discussing whether of not corn needs a large label reading “WARNING-LARK’S VOMIT”(*)
    And there’s a reason for that – BECAUSE THIS ISN’T A SITE THAT REGULARLY DEBATES THE USE OF GMOS
    It would make as little sense as if I went to PeTA’s web site and started asking what people thought of the last episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine. It’s not germane to their site’s purpose.
    You seem dedicated to finding a way to feel offence at us mocking your stance, when all anyone has done is point out you made a comment as out of place as an analysis of the saltiness of corned beef at a Beethoven recital.
    You are clearly passionate about the topic, and that’s fine, but to expect to changes minds and hearts on a site that posts about kittens in buckets and the relative hormone-surging ability of various British actors borders on the delusional.

    (*) – this a cultural reference, and does not intend to suggest that Monsanto or any other agricultural concern use avian regurgitant in its manufacturing processes.

  • Anonymous

    Poor thing…feeling attacked, yet not actually READING anyone’s response and understanding where there coming from. “I stated an opinion and can’t cope with the fact that people aren’t agreeing with me!!’ It reaks of entitlement.

  • Ashe

    Run off with your tail between your legs, uninformed nerd. Nobody’s going to miss you and your thoughts on ‘IRL issues because racism and slut-shaming don’t count’.

    Also, the U.S. constitution you love so much still says slavery is legal. Look it up sometime.

  • Ashe

    Run off with your tail between your legs, uninformed nerd. Nobody’s going to miss you and your thoughts on ‘IRL issues because racism and slut-shaming don’t count’.

    Also, the U.S. constitution you love so much still says slavery is legal. Look it up sometime.

  • Ashe

    “Racism and popular songs glorifying date rape are less important than food labels…wh-why is everyone attacking me???”

  • http://www.seeknewtravel.com/ Kit Whelan

    I definitely don’t hate season 4. It wasn’t magical, but it was solid. And yes, Harmon seems like a raging asshole, but he makes great TV. And as someone else said, he sincerely apologized and it’s good to see a powerful white guy taking that shit seriously: “I’m very sorry to have hurt and frustrated you and I will definitely be swayed from the use of that word in comedic contexts because I don’t like hurting people”

  • http://www.seeknewtravel.com/ Kit Whelan

    This is worse than any of the things Amanda drew. But I guess it technically happened in 2014?

  • Anonymous

    Intention is not magical.

  • http://www.justplainsomething.com JustPlainSomething

    I was thinking about that as I wrote the comment, but I figure since the movie itself was a product of the dreaded 2013, the awards it gets can be included as a product of 2013. But that’s up for debate.

  • Anonymous

    “Fight fervor with fervor, I always say”

  • Ashe

    I wonder what went through the heads of the 94% white judging pool.

    “Wow, Johnny, for a second you almost fooled me into thinking you’re a casino running, beer swigging, food stamps buying, beads selling, pidgin English speaking, tomahawk throwing Indian!”

  • Anonymous

    Lolsob

  • karina

    GEEZ never knew the Geeks on here were such haters. Did I say she was wrong? No. I’m sorry you took my post the wrong way but chill out.

  • karina

    And who are you to be on such a self righteous high horse. You a rude person. I wasn’t saying that anyone here was ignoring issues, just that I didn’t agree with her post…neither a crime or a travesty. Calm down

  • karina

    I’m sorry you misinterpreted my writing. I was just being honest. I’m sorry that people here apparently have an issue with honesty and instead just attack people they don’t agree with. It wasn’t intended as anything other than my perspective. I’m sorry I’m such a horrible person for disagreeing with a post on the site. I’m sorry I didn’t find it as amusing as several other people here. HOwever, it does not raise the need for the attack comments I’ve seen on here.

  • karina

    Yes, I was just stating an opinion I”m sorry you decided to hate on said opinion because it wasn’t as light hearted as you would have liked it to be. I wasn’t trying to start a debate or even get a ton of comments. I was just honestly expressing my opinion. I wasn’t trying to change minds. I was just pointing out that maybe these weren’t the worst things that happened in 2013. Geze calm down. It was just a dman comment on MY opinion of the post. Sorry if wasn’t all rainbows and puppy dogs.

  • karina

    Or maybe you can chill and not make a donkey’s rear end of yourself being an attack commenter. No one would miss your attacks either if you stopped posting.

  • Anonymous

    “I just don’t-huh?!! What do?!” Poor entitled person :(!! (Edit to add) I think my favorite part is how they inserted themselves into the conversation, didn’t like how others reacted to it (with VALID anger) and cried oppression!! Lolololol

  • Anonymous

    WE WIN!

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, you’re done explaining yourself. And a WORLD of no to your tone policing. We’re talking over your oppressive talk now. Go away.

  • Anonymous

    This is a pretty insular group here. Tread carefully.

  • Alice Ruppert

    I hadn’t heard about the apology, actually, thanks for adding that.

  • Lien

    And then, there’s also the gaming community…

    …but for me it’s already a lost cause.

  • Alice Ruppert

    Glad he realized what he said. Yeah, he definitely makes good TV.

  • Ashe

    “sharing an opinion”
    “I was just stating an opinion”
    “just a dman comment on MY opinion of the post”
    “doesn’t mean that I can’t be honest about my reaction and opinion”
    “first amendment and all,I have just as much right to my opinions”

    lol

  • Ashe

    THANK YOU for linking Many Moons-one of her best songs *and* videos!

  • Ashe

    well they DID bring up the first amendment

    I can’t argue with that!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Huh? Did you stop reading at the 12th Amendment or something?

  • Anonymous

    OH SNAP!!

  • Ashe

    “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

    ^

  • Anonymous

    So you think imprisonment after conviction of a crime is the same as slavery?

  • Anonymous

    Point out where I attacked you.

    I used the casual “you” in my first sentence, and then at the end, I suggest that someone who made the points you made about what actually sucked in real life about 2013 probably already gets real life information about current events elsewhere and doesn’t rely on The Mary Sue as her sole source of social justice information, thereby suggesting that you are not at a loss for reading an article about the geek fandom whimsical reasons for why 2013 sucked.

    You offered an opinion. I offered a counter opinion using my own experience.

  • Ashe

    People are wrongfully convicted all the time. Some far, FAR more than others.

    America’s incarceration statistics coupled with American history and this amendment isn’t deserving of the benign word ‘imprisonment’.

    School-to-prison pipelines, unfair sentencing disproportionately affecting Black and Latino communities, white police regularly getting away with murder…you don’t need to see iron shackles and cotton fields to know who’s still being kept in check in this country economically, judicially and socially.

    The language may change, but the results are pretty similar.

  • karina

    This I’ve learned. Apparently not wanting to be attacked is akin to crying oppression. I just wish I could understand why everyone is getting so red in the face about honesty.

  • karina

    This I’ve learned. Apparently not wanting to be attacked is akin to crying oppression. I just wish I could understand why everyone is getting so red in the face about honesty.

  • karina

    If you cannot see where you attacked me that’s not my issue.

  • karina

    If you cannot see where you attacked me that’s not my issue.

  • Anonymous

    And all of those things are protected in the Constitution where? You maintain that the symptoms and effects of socio-economic inequality and chattel slavery as “pretty similar”. OK.

  • Anonymous

    And all of those things are protected in the Constitution where? You maintain that the symptoms and effects of socio-economic inequality and chattel slavery as “pretty similar”. OK.

  • karina

    Good luck with those ettiquite classes you’ll need them.

  • Anonymous

    I think the question here isn’t that your reaction wasn’t honest, but whether it was germane to the topic at hand. That is what is confusing. You clearly did read this list and honestly think, “Aren’t there more meaningful, real-world topics for why 2013 was terrible?” Honest reaction, no question.

    But the second part is, does that reaction make sense knowing that contextually, the website talks about pop culture issues related to a subset of geek-culture and that the segment in particular is intended to be light-hearted and silly and about geek topics? My opinion is no. While the list doesn’t explicitly say, “Why 2013 Sucked for Mary Sue Fandom/Geek Culture”, the website and specific feature imply the context for you. Obviously, had the same title of “Why 2013 Sucked” been used on an article on Mother Jones, Huffington Post, or CNN, and only talked mirthfully about geek culture, then your criticism would be germane.

    Right now, it just comes off as criticizing a burger joint for not selling arts and crafts.

  • karina

    if winning is getting someone to stop wasting their time on you then yes….if its having a mature conversation then no.

  • Anonymous

    It isn’t understandable. The comments boards just have to remain pure.

  • Anonymous

    On the other hand, everybody could have just ignored it as though they were adults who can tolerate the existence of something they don’t care for.

  • karina

    I was being honest in saying that I wasn’t nearly as amused by it as many of you apparently are. It was cute…don’t get me wrong, but even in terms of the geek world I feel like there were worse things about this last year. I was just saying that I didn’t agree with it. Now, I get the feature and the context, but that STILL doesn’t mean that my comment was either ill places or should result in so much ill placed anger when it was just a simple post. Geze, you’re all being way too sensitive (and rediculously angry) about one person’s opinion. I would understand if I had flat out said it was horrible or that she’s off base, but that’s not at all what I was saying.

  • Ashe

    “Stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, that’s not progress. You need to heal the wound the knife has made: they won’t even admit the knife is there.” -Malcolm X

    You don’t seem to have much of an argument, so I’m just going to leave that there. It sums up what I’m saying.

  • Anonymous

    Slavery is legal according to the Constitution. You win!

  • Anonymous

    So, we got “chill out”, which is tone policing, along with the idea that “zomg EMOTION MAKES CONVERSATIONS BREAK DOWN!!11 ELEVENTY!!” and then we have “Careful showing your true colors, because people might actually call you out on your shit”. Bingo yet?

  • karina

    I thought the movie was great personally, but I agree the makeup could have been much better.

  • Anonymous

    I love (note: sarcasm) the way you devalue not only the people who make the comments here, but the people who run this site. It’s easy to dehumanize, isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Okay, player….

  • Anonymous

    No to all of that shit.

  • karina

    really funny coming from you who has been attacking all the comments you don’t like on this post.

  • Anonymous

    ……………………………….whut.

  • Anonymous

    YES. I have been attacking the ACTIONS, not the person. Though I find your continued ACTIONS on this board HIL-ARIOUS, because you are very ignorant. And choose to continue to be so.

  • karina

    maybe try pulling out the stick and call yourself on your own bs….like raging comment attacks.

  • Anonymous

    Again….poor thing. Someone called you out on your shit. *single tear* (ETA) Actually, MORE then one person…damn! It’s almost like there’s a point here you’re choosing to ignor-I mean, missing…………….

  • Anonymous

    What in the Sam Hill are you going on about now? Dehumanize? Seriously?

  • karina

    Well, considering I would have had to have pulled some shit to be called out on it….I think someone needs a mirror and some reflection time. I wish you were making a point rather than a rear end of yourself…..but it seems that would be against your nature hun. ..

  • karina

    I do not think that the words you use mean what you think they mean. Your misuse of words and lack of ability to actually defend your position without just rambling…is funny. I haven’t done anything to merit an attack on my actions….which isn’t what you’re doing anyway.

  • Anonymous

    I’m gonna ‘splain and break it down here.

    “It isn’t understandable” means “There’s no reasoning with them”. There’s no interest in how YOUR words affect people; it’s just we’re “unreasonable”.

    The idea that the “boards have to remain pure”….REAKS of entitlement bullshit. Like, it also comes off as some racist shit. Gross. Gross gross gross.

    It’s not about what “you meant”. It’s not about “your intentions”. You’re stating all of this on a fairly female friendly site (I don’t speak for all women on this issue, of course) which can lead to some misogynist thinking, that because there is passion in our words and being endlessly. tired. of. this. bullshit. that “we are not worthy of your time”, or worse, your empathy. We are dehumanized, then, because why empathize with something that isn’t human?

  • Anonymous

    Okay :)

  • Anonymous

    ………………………whut.

  • karina

    for such a friendly webpage you sure do over-react to others opinions. For such a female friendly site you sure do attack a lot of people verbally…she wasn’t commenting on your value as a person or about not being worth her empathy. Her comment was directed at your lack of empathy and your lack of understanding for other’s opinions who differ from your own.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, player.

  • karina

    Thank you for proving my point

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for proving my point.

  • Anonymous

    Get over yourself. This “entitlement bull*hit” you write of exists mostly in your mirror, I suspect. I’m not the one on here telling people to go away. I didn’t know this was a girls only club, sorry.

  • karina

    Please don’t tell me you’re one of those people who can’t feel good about themselves unless they get the last word in…its so trite.

  • Anonymous

    lolololololololololololol. Projection much?

  • Anonymous

    No to all of that :)

  • karina

    I don’t want you to agree with me if that’s not your view. I just fail to see how that justifies you being a rude prick in every comment you make. My problem is with the unwarranted rude reactions.

  • karina

    the problem is that you don’t have valid anger and I’m far from entitled. Your ASSumptions just help show your true colors.

  • karina

    I just wish that comment had an intelligent thought behind it. Classist and racist? WTF? its neither.

  • Anonymous

    You can’t just say “No to all of that.” You can say “No to some of that.” But certainly not all of that. Really, I’m not the one telling people to go away. That’d be you.

  • karina

    I just wanted to post an opinion until you and other unreasonable people on here started attacking me for having an opinion that differed from yours…and if I haven’t wanted a decent conversation this entire time…what does that say about you for consistently just attack commenting? Nothing good I think.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that’s fair. She wasn’t trying to derail anything; she wasn’t responding to anyone else’s comment. Personally, I don’t really agree with any of her points or even think this is the best forum to make them. However, I just moved on (until I saw all the negative reactions she was getting). “I kinda wish” is hardly an inappropriately negative criticism of anything.

  • Amanda LaPergola

    Okay, that’s it. I’m invoking Godwin’s Law.

    Nazis.

    Now, we’re done.

  • Anonymous

    I’m so sorry all this happened. They’re very nice cartoons.

  • Anonymous

    Who would have thought people would comment and respond to comments in a comment section? The very nerve… It’s like people can’t even post comments in public in peace without people responding to them anymore! What’s up with THAT?

  • Anonymous

    Who would have thought that people would have responded in this manner to this one post is the point I was making. Pretty derisive all around. Well except from the creator of the original piece. That was outright appropriateness. And spell check is telling me that appropriateness is an actual word so I’m leaving it.

  • Anonymous

    That puppet episode was awesome! Awesome, I tell you! Adamantium rage!

  • Melynda

    Janelle Monae is awesome. I didn’t know she had a new album out since I shunned most music that wasn’t from my fav band. Now I have something to use that itunes giftcard from Christmas on…

  • Melynda

    Oh get over it. This isn’t a political blog, it’s a geek fandom site. Go wax political over on HuffPo.

  • Cordo_Roxen

    The Electric Lady is worth every penny! Full of amazing songs while also expanding the universe from Metropolis and The ArchAndroid.

  • Amanda LaPergola

    Um…

    I like your screen name?

  • Anonymous

    You’re right; it was late, and I was shaking from anger at that point. But I used those without much thought. What you said at the least has those under tones. And again, I don’t respond to you because I think that suddenly you’re going to reply out of good faith; I’m interested in keeping my mistakes and responses clear.

    This whole thing breaks down to this: you stated an opinion. People disagreed with you, passionately at times. You continue to defend your opinion, even though people point out things that are wrong with it. I saw how you’re not interested in responding in good faith, simply acting like everyone’s “attacking” you. I join in. I attack your entitlement. You respond with personal attacks, such as I’m not educated. Frankly, I’m with you that trolling gets nowhere at times (actually it never works, save for the person doing it). But at that point, it’s either play by your rules, where you don’t communicate in good faith, but whoever responds to you is supposed to, for your benefit, or act like an a**hole, in which the person doing so is seen as “emotional, irrational, and attacking you”. Heads you win, tails I lose.

  • Anonymous

    No…just a good portion of the conversation was made irrelevant.

  • Anonymous

    And I’m also not the ones saying “You can’t say this”. Yeah, when people aren’t communicating in good faith, I think it’s relevant to say “Go away”. But then again, this is not my board and I really shouldn’t be acting like it is.

  • karina

    I never had any racist overtones. I have no clue what brought you to that misguided idea. And I would be far from removed to call portions of your comment as good faith. Trying to justify your actions by saying that you tried to have a conversation in good faith is a fallacy.

    Yes I stated an opinion. I didn’t care that people disagreed. I defended my right to have an opinion yes. All I wanted people to realize was that it was wrong to attack me just because they didn’t agree. People went on a hate spree just because I didn’t spew rainbows and puppy dogs about this post. I didn’t dislike the post I just stated an opinion on said post from my point of view. I’m sorry that is apparently a crime on this page of Geekdom. Had I known that I never would have said a thing. HOwever, that did not merit the hate attack on everything I said, even though I tried to explain myself and tried to make people realize that it was just an opinion, not a de-railer, or any of the other ridiculous things it was called in this discussion.

    Also, don’t put words in my mouth. I NEVER said that you were uneducation. I said you were rude and implied that you were obnoxious, but don’t put words in my mouth that I never said. I’m sorry if you imagined them out of your implications, but that’s not my problem, that’s yours. That is my whole problem with you. You infer things from thin air with no reason or rational. I said that you didn’t understand the meaning of a few words, but that was when you grossly misused them. sorry, but you did.

    Actually, it was play by your rules. That’s why I started responding the way I did. I got tired of YOUR attacks on my comment and your rude uncalled for attitude. You have yet to communicate with me on this forum in good faith, so your entire argument about that is fallacy.

    I responded in good faith. I tried to explain myself when attacked. I tried to hold an adult conversation about it, and was met instead by several of the people on this site just spewing crap because they didn’t agree with a comment on a post. You only lose because you don’t see the error of your actions.

    That being said. I shouldn’t have let you and the others here cause me to raise so much anger. I should have walked away entirely when you all started attacking instead of holding an adult conversation. I should have realized that it was ridiculous to argue with people who were just going to continue their attack. On that note you do win because I should know better.

  • Anonymous

    Is it still redface if it’s white pancake makeup?

  • Anonymous

    You had me at “SLINGSHOT IS ALSO PEOPLE!!!”